[R-G] USA & Taliban Begin Talks

[aaron doncaster]

In my opinion, this is a turning point where the U.S will now begin a
process of structuring an oppressive puppet government wit the fudamentalist
taliban in key positions of power so once the U.S can get out,now that they
Know their recent defestating looses are just the type of the iceberg , the
people, many who are non-taliban revolutionary fighters fighting the
occupiers, can be kept under control and anti- americanism can be contained.
The reason the U.S has been withdrawing from Iraq and will soon start in
Afghanistan, is not because they are loosing;they are too stubbron to care
weather they are losing abroad. The real reason is because they are loosing
at home. They are in a process of bringing the troops home because they are
loosing at home and are prepareing to quell revolutionary activity Within
their boarders.I think radical anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarians in
America need to prepare for this potentiality. If your an anti-capitalist
and an anti-authoritarian in the U.S who is not willing to pick up arms if
it becomes necessary then you need to figure out how, in a armed
revolutionary situation,you can be a non-armed revolutionary and still
survive. If and I hope it does not get to such a point, but if revolutionary
armed strugle becomes necessary in America in the near future and you want
to escape, Canadian anarchist and ant-capitalist and anti-authoritarians
will welcomer you with open arms. keep in mind this is all hypothetical but
my philosophy is to hope for the best but expect and prepare for the worst.
  I also think that it might be a good idea for Rawa to start arming their
members in Afghanistan, if they are not already armed. Also, about 4 years
ago I ask Malalia Joya if Rawa should request the creation of an
international brigades to fight by their side against the Taliban and she
said that many of her supports had asked her if they should pick up weapons
to fight the Taliban and she said now is not the time. Well I think Malalia
needs to revisit the idea of working with Rawa and her own supporters to
create peoples militias to defeat the soon to be American installed
Neo-Taliban government in Afghanistan

Aaron

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Gary Crethers <garyrumor2 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> USA And Taliban Begin TalksSeptember 11th, 2010
> This is an interesting version of the great game being played  out in South
> Asia. The gist of the story is less about talks than an  overview of what
> is
> going on among the militant Muslims. The speculation  that Osama may be
> repatriated to Saudi Arabia as an upstanding citizen  is unlikely to happen
> any
> time soon. Dividing Afghanistan with the  Taliban in the south and the US
> puppet
> regime in the north is also a  remote plausibility.
> Obama has a domestic timeline. He wants the war in Afghanistan to be
>  winding
> down in time for the 2012 elections. US troops have to be  perceived to be
> coming home from there and a deal with the Taliban that  denies Al Qaeda
> access
> to Afghanistan would be a sensible solution. As  is noted in the story Al
> Qaeda
> is busy revitalizing its campaign to  destabilize regimes in Central Asia
> and in
> Northern Africa as it seeks a  State of its own to build the Caliphate
> from. The
> USA would do well to  let them become state players somewhere as that
> responsibility will bog  them down in the day to day concerns of a nation
> and
> will force Al Qaeda  to show how successfully it can function as a state
> player.
> Kind of  like the Bolsheviks in Russia after the October Revolution.
> The development of a pipeline across Afghanistan for Central Asian  oil is
> another key factor. If this pipeline goes through both Taliban  and puppet
> controlled areas of Afghanistan that will provide some  revenue for the
> local
> economy to help ween it from dependence on  contraband and drugs. This will
> make
> the Russians happy as they are  undergoing a heroin epidemic similar to
> that
> which the US underwent  subsequent to the Vietnam war when Golden Triangle
> Heroin flooded the US  market in the 1970’s.
> Here is the Asia Times Article.
> “AN ATOL EXCLUSIVE (Asia Times On Line)
> Taliban and US get down to talks
> Sept 11, 2010
> By Syed Saleem Shahzad
> ISLAMABAD - United States President Barack Obama has pledged to begin
> withdrawing troops from Afghanistan in July 2011, and as a part of the
>  initial
> outlines of this exit strategy the Taliban are for the first  time in
> serious
> negotiations with the US.
> The Pakistan military and Saudi Arabia are acting as go-betweens to
>  facilitate
> the talks, a top Pakistani security official directly  involved in the
> negotiation process has told Asia Times Online.
> According to the official, the Pakistan army has already been in  contact
> with
> top Taliban commanders, including Sirajuddin Haqqani.  Information is then
> passed onto the Saudis, who in turn liaise with the  Americans.
> At this stage, no direct contact has been made with Taliban leader  Mullah
> Omar,
> although he characteristically does not involve himself  personally in such
> talks; they are handled by close associates.
> The security official indicated, however, that unlike in the past  nine
> years
> since the ouster of the Taliban and the US-led  anti-insurgency operations
> in
> Afghanistan, Mullah Omar has shown a  positive and flexible attitude.
> The Taliban have previously insisted that all foreign troops -  currently
> numbered at 150,000 - leave Afghanistan before any peace talks  could
> begin.
> Separately, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has set up a  High Peace Council
> to
> facilitate talks with Taliban leaders.
> The initial talks have covered two main areas - the issue of about 60
> Pakistanis in the US’s Guantanamo detention facility, and al-Qaeda.
> “A delegation of Pakistani officials will soon visit the Guantanamo  Bay
> prison
> to personally interview the Pakistani prisoners. [Their  release] would be
> a
> goodwill gesture from the American side, and also  set the stage for
> negotiations between the Taliban and Washington,” the  Pakistani official
> told
> ATol.
> Another element touched on in the talks is the American demand that  it
> maintain
> a military presence in northern Afghanistan, while agreeing  to give
> control of
> the south to the Taliban. The Taliban do not agree  with this - they want a
> complete US withdrawal. This remains a point of  major disagreement.
> The al-Qaeda factor
> A key problem remains al-Qaeda - the US has no interest in any deals  with
> the
> group and wants to specifically separate the Taliban from  al-Qaeda.
> The US has always insisted that any future Taliban government would  have
> to
> expel al-Qaeda from Afghanistan. The Taliban agree on this, but  want
> al-Qaeda
> to be given “honorable treatment”. It was the presence of  Osama bin Laden
> and
> his al-Qaeda in Afghanistan that led the US to  invade the country in late
> 2001
> in retaliation for the September 11,  2001, attacks on the US.
> On its part, al-Qaeda, armed with new allies, has its own agenda
>  regardless of
> whether the Taliban make peace with Washington or continue  their war.
> Pakistan’s army chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kiani, is fully  cognizant of
> the
> sensitivities of the issue. The army does not want to  shove anything under
> the
> rug, it aims to address every issue so that  when more advanced
> negotiations
> begin with the Taliban, all irritants  will have been resolved.
> The Pakistani military has established a system of backchannel
>  communications
> in which issues are discussed with Taliban leaders. Notes  are then shared
> with
> Washington and Riyadh simultaneously. In this  process, Saudi Arabia plays
> a
> central role.
> In view of the al-Qaeda problem - which has the potential to derail any
>  peace
> efforts - Kiani recently went to Riyadh and spent five days in  discussions
> with
> King Abdullah, intelligence chief Prince Muqrin bin  Abdul Aziz and other
> officials. The central theme was how to  rehabilitate bin Laden and other
> Saudi
> citizens, beside arranging  refugee status for other al-Qaeda members. Bin
> Laden
> was stripped of his  Saudi citizenship in the 1990s.
> The director general of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence,  Lieutenant
> General Ahmad Shuja Pasha, was sent to Washington regarding a  proposal for
> al-Qaeda to shift from Afghanistan to Saudi Arabia.
> Al-Qaeda’s struggle is entering a decisive phase, one in which it  does not
> necessarily need the protection and support of the Taliban -  unlike in
> 2002,
> when al-Qaeda was badly beaten as a result of US attacks  and reduced to a
> few
> thousand members in a rag-tag militia. It had also  lost a number of
> leaders in
> the “war on terror”, either killed or  arrested by Pakistan from 2002
> onwards.
> Since then, the organization has revived its fortunes, from the  Caucasus
> to the
> Pakistani tribal areas, from India to Iraq and Somalia.
> In Afghanistan, the southwest is controlled by Mullah Omar’s  Kandahari
> clan,
> while the southeast is completely under the command of  pro-al-Qaeda
> commanders
> such as Qari Ziaur Rahman and Sirajuddin  Haqqani. Their forces include
> thousands of non-Pashtun linked with the  anti-Iran Jundallah and the
> powerful
> 313 Brigade of Ilyas Kashmiri. They  also draw support from the
> Laskhar-e-Jhangvi and last but not least the  Pashtun Tehrik-e-Taliban
> Pakistan
> (Pakistan Taliban).
> Recently, al-Qaeda launched Chechen and Uzbek fighters from the  Pakistani
> tribal areas back into the Central Asian republics and Russia.  In the
> latest
> attack, on Thursday, 18 people were killed and more than a  hundred injured
> in a
> suicide bombing in the North Ossetian capital of  Vladikavkaz.
> Under the command structure of Laskhar al-Zil, a shadowy army  comprising
> various al-Qaeda-linked groups, al-Qaeda is reasserting  itself in Iraq,
> Yemen
> and Somalia, and at the same time planning to open  up a new and constant
> front
> in India.
> According to ATol contacts in the militant camp, al-Qaeda has no  objection
> if
> the Taliban strike a deal with Washington that paves the  way for an
> American
> withdrawal from Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda would simply  leave Afghanistan and
> jack
> up its operations in Pakistan and India.  Al-Qaeda has already escalated
> attacks
> in Pakistan to create space for  itself.
> In the past few weeks, al-Qaeda-linked groups like Tariq Afridi have
>  struck
> deals with local warlord Mangal Bagh to target major cities in  restive
> Khyber
> Pakhtoonkhwa province, including Kohat and the capital  Peshawar.
> Commander Badr Mansoor has been tasked to increase activities in  cities
> near
> the tribal areas, including Dera Ismail Khan, Bannu and  Lucky Marwat.
> Sabir
> Mehsud of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi has been asked to  escalate attacks in the
> main
> urban centers of Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi  and Quetta, while commander
> Bin
> Yameen has been ordered to mobilize  cadre in the Swat Valley.
> While the Taliban-Washington dialogue process is in its early stage,
>  al-Qaeda
> is well on the way to setting up an infrastructure to prove  that it - not
> any
> state, army or the Taliban - is the real player of the  upcoming game.
> Syed Saleem Shahzad is Asia Times Online’s Pakistan Bureau Chief. He can be
> reached at saleem_shahzad2002 at yahoo.com”
>
>
>
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