[R-G] [BillTottenWeblog] Memo to Obama, McCain

[Bill Totten]

No one wins in a war

by Howard Zinn

The Boston Globe (July 17 2008)


Barack Obama and John McCain continue to argue about war. McCain says to
keep the troops in Iraq until we "win" and supports sending more troops
to Afghanistan. Obama says to withdraw some (not all) troops from Iraq
and send them to fight and "win" in Afghanistan.

For someone like myself, who fought in World War II, and since then has
protested against war, I must ask: Have our political leaders gone mad?
Have they learned nothing from recent history? Have they not learned
that no one "wins" in a war, but that hundreds of thousands of humans
die, most of them civilians, many of them children?

Did we "win" by going to war in Korea? The result was a stalemate,
leaving things as they were before with a dictatorship in South Korea
and a dictatorship in North Korea. Still, more than two million people -
mostly civilians - died, the United States dropped napalm on children,
and 50,000 American soldiers lost their lives.

Did we "win" in Vietnam? We were forced to withdraw, but only after two
million Vietnamese died, again mostly civilians, again leaving children
burned or armless or legless, and 58,000 American soldiers dead.

Did we win in the first Gulf War? Not really. Yes, we pushed Saddam
Hussein out of Kuwait, with only a few hundred US casualties, but
perhaps 100,000 Iraqis died. And the consequences were deadly for the
United States: Saddam was still in power, which led the United States to
enforce economic sanctions. That move led to the deaths of hundreds of
thousands of Iraqis, according to UN officials, and set the stage for
another war.

In Afghanistan, the United States declared "victory" over the Taliban.
Now the Taliban is back, and attacks are increasing. The recent US
military death count in Afghanistan exceeds that in Iraq. What makes
Obama think that sending more troops to Afghanistan will produce
"victory"? And if it did, in an immediate military sense, how long would
that last, and at what cost to human life on both sides?

The resurgence of fighting in Afghanistan is a good moment to reflect on
the beginning of US involvement there. There should be sobering thoughts
to those who say that attacking Iraq was wrong, but attacking
Afghanistan was right.

Go back to September 11 2001. Hijackers direct jets into the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon, killing close to 3,000 A terrorist act,
inexcusable by any moral code. The nation is aroused. President Bush
orders the invasion and bombing of Afghanistan, and the American public
is swept into approval by a wave of fear and anger. Bush announces a
"war on terror".

Except for terrorists, we are all against terror. So a war on terror
sounded right. But there was a problem, which most Americans did not
consider in the heat of the moment: President Bush, despite his
confident bravado, had no idea how to make war against terror.

Yes, Al Qaeda - a relatively small but ruthless group of fanatics - was
apparently responsible for the attacks. And, yes, there was evidence
that Osama bin Laden and others were based in Afghanistan. But the
United States did not know exactly where they were, so it invaded and
bombed the whole country. That made many people feel righteous. "We had
to do something", you heard people say.

Yes, we had to do something. But not thoughtlessly, not recklessly.
Would we approve of a police chief, knowing there was a vicious criminal
somewhere in a neighborhood, ordering that the entire neighborhood be
bombed? There was soon a civilian death toll in Afghanistan of more than
3,000 - exceeding the number of deaths in the September 11 attacks.
Hundreds of Afghans were driven from their homes and turned into
wandering refugees.

Two months after the invasion of Afghanistan, a Boston Globe story
described a ten-year-old in a hospital bed: "He lost his eyes and hands
to the bomb that hit his house after Sunday dinner". The doctor
attending him said: "The United States must be thinking he is Osama. If
he is not Osama, then why would they do this?"

We should be asking the presidential candidates: Is our war in
Afghanistan ending terrorism, or provoking it? And is not war itself
terrorism?
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Howard Zinn is author of A People's History of the United States (1980,
2003).

(c) Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

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