[R-G] Fault Lines in Occupied Iraq: An Interview with Patrick Cockburn

Yoshie Furuhashi critical.montages at gmail.com
Thu Apr 3 10:00:47 MDT 2008


Patrick Cockburn says that "A lot of what the U.S. has done over the
last five years is find a way in which Saddam is gone, but they don't
have the alternative of a powerful religious Shia government backed by
Iranian power.  Moktada represents their worst nightmare. He is the
guy who seems to be calling the shots in Iraq, is wearing a black
turban, and looks and sounds a bit like the Ayatollah Khomeini. And
whatever reason they overthrew Saddam for, it wasn't for that."  And
that's the bottom line: the US power elite don't want to withdraw US
troops from Iraq until they succeed in eliminating or neutralizing
Sadrists or Iran or both.  If they eventually end up having to order
the troops to retreat into the predominantly Kurdish area of Iraq,
they will still leave behind the already 90,000-strong Sunni militias
who think that their main enemy is the Shia. -- Yoshie

<http://www.socialistworker.org/2008-1/668/668_04_Cockburn.shtml>
Fault lines in occupied Iraq

April 4, 2008 | Pages 4 and 5

THE ERUPTION of fighting from Basra to Baghdad has demolished the
latest U.S. war lie that occupied Iraq has turned the corner toward
peace and stability. As April began, the Iraqi central
government--backed by all the firepower of the U.S. military--was
still battling forces loyal to rebel cleric Moktada al-Sadr and his
Mahdi Army.

PATRICK COCKBURN is a journalist whose reports from Iraq have appeared
in Britain's Independent and other publications, and the author of
several books on Iraq, including most recently Muqtada: Muqtada
al-Sadr, the Shia Revival and the Struggle for Iraq. He talked to ERIC
RUDER about the background to the renewed combat and what it means for
Iraq's future.

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COULD YOU describe how Basra became a flashpoint for this
confrontation, and why it happened now?

BASRA IS the second city of Iraq, with a population of 2 million, the
great majority of them Shia. From 2003, the British were there, but
they never really had control of the city, and what they did have was
steadily reduced.

So the powers in Basra are the Mahdi Army of Moktada al-Sadr; Fadilah,
a splinter group led by Mohammad Yacoubi, who was a lieutenant of
Moktada's father; and the Supreme Iraqi Islamic Council and its armed
wing, the Badr Organization, who are closely allied to the government
in Baghdad.

They essentially split up the resources in the city, the port, the
refineries--Fadilah, in particular, is very strong in the oil
industry. The thing to remember is that the Sadrists and the Mahdi
Army always came from the poorer Shia, while the Supreme Council comes
from the merchants, the businessmen--the slightly better off.

In Basra, the poorest of the poor are often the marsh Arabs. These are
people who used to live in the marshes where the Tigris and Euphrates
Rivers meet near Basra, and they had an extraordinary culture there.
They lived in reed houses, like a sort of ancient Venice.

The marshes were drained by Saddam Hussein to quell rebellions, and
the marsh Arabs were forced to flee to Basra and live in terrible
slums. They support Moktada and the Sadrists and are also famously
tough fighters as members of militias.

THE U.S. appears to have sanctioned the Iraqi government assault on
Basra and is collaborating with the attack on Sadr's forces in
Baghdad. What is the U.S. after?

U.S. POLICY toward Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's attack on Basra is
very strange. One of the reasons that violence is down a bit in
Iraq--though not by anything like the amount people seem to
imagine--is that Moktada al-Sadr had declared a ceasefire. By letting
Maliki attack the Mahdi Army in Basra, the ceasefire has been blown
out of the water.

Why the U.S. allowed it is a bit of a mystery. But why did Maliki do
it? I think probably because there are going to be elections at the
end of October, and his own Dawa Party is pretty small, his allies on
the Supreme Council are pretty unpopular, and they want to get a grip
on the south of Iraq before the elections, which the Sadrists were
expected to do well in.

There are other reasons for the timing. The leader of the Supreme
Council, Abdel Aziz Hakim, is very ill with lung cancer, and he isn't
expected to last long, so they may have felt they were a little bit
stronger now.

THE U.S. has surrounded Sadr's forces in Sadr City and seems to be
engaged in a Gaza-like siege. What will the consequences of this be?

THEY'VE SURROUNDED Sadr City, which isn't so much a district of
Baghdad as a twin city, with a population of 2 million, about
one-third of the population of Baghdad. They've sealed it off, but
that's the big fortress of the Sadrists. So they can cut it off and
make incursions, but I don't think they can capture it--and if they
have any sense, they won't.

It's still an extraordinary event. The last time this happened was in
Najaf in 2004 when Paul Bremer, the U.S. viceroy in Iraq, had the
amazingly bad idea to suddenly take on Moktada--close down his
newspapers, arrest one of his lieutenants and then issue an arrest
warrant for Moktada himself. The whole south of Iraq and Baghdad
erupted.

The Sadrists are usually stronger than they look. They are the one big
political movement in Iraq. They appeal to the Shia poor, and most
Iraqis are Shia and most Shia are poor, so they have a very big
constituency. They aren't that well organized, but they have a lot of
people supporting them.

This was a complete disaster for the U.S. in 2004, and it looks like
they may have done the same thing all over again. You can see that
they're being sucked into air strikes and support for the Iraqi army
because Maliki made this strange statement that everyone must be
disarmed within 72 hours. These are people who Saddam Hussein couldn't
disarm, so I don't think the present Iraqi government is going to be
able to do it.

But there's something not very serious about what he's doing. If
they're going to get anywhere, they've got to use U.S. air power, but
an awful lot of people are going to get killed if they do that. And
even so, it may not get them very far.

DOES THIS fighting represent the opening battle in a struggle between
rival Shia factions over what the future of Iraq will look like?

THESE DIVISIONS have been there before. There are social divisions
within the Shia community, and there are political divisions.

Moktada always opposed the U.S. occupation, while the Supreme Council
and Dawa were prepared to play along with it. The Supreme Council was
set up by the Iranians, and a lot of its senior members speak Farsi
not Arabic, while the Sadrists have traditionally been anti-Iranian
and Iraqi nationalist.

The Shia community seems to be splitting for the first time. As soon
as the U.S. decided to overthrow Saddam Hussein, two things were
pretty much inevitable. One, the Shia community would take power, and
the religious parties would be the likely vehicle for that. And two,
Iranian influence would increase because their big enemy was Saddam
Hussein, and he was going to be overthrown.

A lot of what the U.S. has done over the last five years is find a way
in which Saddam is gone, but they don't have the alternative of a
powerful religious Shia government backed by Iranian power.

Moktada represents their worst nightmare. He is the guy who seems to
be calling the shots in Iraq, is wearing a black turban, and looks and
sounds a bit like the Ayatollah Khomeini. And whatever reason they
overthrew Saddam for, it wasn't for that.

IT PASSES for established fact in the U.S. media that the Bush troop
surge has been a success and is primarily responsible for the decrease
in violence in Iraq over the last year. Does this fit with reality?

THE SURGE was oversold and misunderstood. What was the surge? A small
increase in the number of American troops. Did that make a critical
difference? No, it didn't.

What changed was something very different. In 2006 and 2007, there was
a very bloody civil war, though Bush and Blair were denying it. This
very savage civil war was basically won by the Shia, who control
three-quarters of Baghdad.

The Sunni were on the ropes. The Sunni groups didn't like al-Qaeda,
but above all, they could see that while they weren't doing badly
against the U.S., they were doing very badly against the Shia, and
were being driven out of Baghdad. The Sunnis took a very cold look at
this and decided we have to find more allies, so we've got to stop
fighting the U.S. and ally ourselves with the U.S. against al-Qaeda,
but above all against the Shia.

That was the key change. One of the problems about the analysis of
Iraq in the U.S. is that there's always a supposition that it's the
U.S., and the U.S. alone, controlling the political weather in
Iraq--but that ain't really so. There are many things going on there
that are related to the U.S., but aren't controlled by the U.S.

The Shia felt that they won in Baghdad, and the Mahdi Army declared a
ceasefire. But I always find it a bit chilling because people keep
asking me if it's better in Iraq. In one sense, it is--about 12 or 14
months ago, 3,000 civilians were being slaughtered every month. This
month, it's going to be around 1,500 or 1,600 dead, though nobody
quite knows how many people have been killed in Basra and elsewhere.

So it's better--1,500 instead of 3,000--but it's still terrible. But
somehow, the impression has been given in the U.S. that the corner has
been turned--that things are getting better and we're there for the
long haul.

A temporary change has taken place--it might go on for a few months or
even a couple years, but what has really changed is that Sunni and
Shia in Baghdad and in central Iraq--because of the fighting, the
killing, the torturing--hate and fear each other more than they hate
and fear the U.S. at the moment.

But that doesn't mean that they're keen on the U.S. occupation in the
long term, and it doesn't mean that this situation is going to last.

The government in many ways is even weaker. There are these new Sunni
groups--the sahwas or Awakening Councils--that are really a huge
militia, some 90,000 strong. I've talked to them in and around
Falluja, and as soon as you mention the Iraqi government, they say
it's the worst government in the world. They regard the government as
their enemy. So Iraq is even more fragmented than it was before.

U.S. politicians--Bush, Cheney and others--keep appealing for Iraqi
communities to come together and pass various laws, but one of the
reasons that the U.S. position has improved somewhat is that Iraqi
communities were so split and hated each other so much that the Sunni
preferred the Americans to the Shia, and vice versa. And of course,
the Kurds have always looked to an alliance with the U.S.

The U.S. position improved because of the enormous differences between
Iraqis, so it's absurd that they then demand that Iraqis come
together.

SO DOES that mean the U.S. is caught between divide-and-conquer
tactics and wanting a strong, pro-U.S. Iraqi government that could
bring stability and allow for a long-term U.S. presence?

I THINK that the occupation of Iraq, and really the occupations of any
country, tend in the long term to exacerbate ethnic and sectarian
divisions. It does so for quite a simple reason. Usually, there is a
majority and a minority, and the minority looks to the occupying power
to even up the balance.

It's not always so, but in a divided country, one or the other is
going to look to the occupier as its ally. In Iraq, you always had
sectarian and ethnic divisions, and sometimes these were serious. But
suddenly, after 2003, a Sunni former officer who was looking at his
Shia neighbor didn't just see a Shia, but somebody he regarded as a
traitor to his country if he was cooperating with the Americans.

So this exacerbated pre-existing divisions. That's true in any
occupied country, such as British-occupied India. The number of places
where you could say that a foreign occupation reduced sectarian or
ethnic differences is very small. I can't think of one.

WHAT CARDS does the U.S. have left to play at this point?

I JUST got back from Iraq, and it reminds me of Lebanon during the
civil wars. At some times, there would be lulls when there was less
violence. People would go out in the streets in Beirut and sit in the
cafes, and people would go to the beaches. And journalists, if they
were unwise, would write articles about how Lebanon is rising from the
ashes.

But all the Lebanese knew that nothing had been solved, and that the
veneer of calm could go, and would go, at some point, and they were
always right.

In Iraq, the conditions are worse. It's a much more violent place,
with more fighting. When all the spurious optimism was being produced
about the surge, it always seemed to me that there were so many things
that could break. It's worth pointing out that people like Gen.
Petraeus in Baghdad were always pretty careful about saying it was
fragile and reversible, much more so than the people in Washington.

So now, we suddenly have another explosion of violence, and it makes
the surge look oversold. Unfortunately, I think the barometer in the
U.S. used to judge whether things are going well or badly in Iraq is
the count of U.S. casualties. If they stay down, people may feel
things aren't too bad, and they could get better.

But, this is a pretty partial barometer. When you look at Iraqis,
counting the number of dead bodies is important, but it's not the only
thing. One should ask why it is that 3 million Iraqi refugees--2
million outside the country and 1 million inside, or one in nine
Iraqis who had to flee their homes--aren't going home? It's pretty
telling that they don't. No one wants to stay a refugee. They don't go
home because it's too dangerous.

I think that the biggest success of the surge was a public relations
success at home. It's actually been the name of the game since 2003. I
was talking to an Iraqi politician in Baghdad, and he told me that the
problem is, as always, that the agenda in Iraq is driven by the
perception in the U.S. of what's happening in Iraq--rather than what's
really happening on the ground.

-- 
Yoshie
<http://montages.blogspot.com/>



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