[R-G] Fwd: [mgp] "reform is the training ground for revolution".
aaron at istop.com
aaron at istop.com
Tue May 25 22:31:09 MDT 2004
Forwarded From: "aaron at istop.com" <aaron at istop.com>
> I admit, I have looked at the green platform and some of there platform
> policies seem to be more progressive then even the NDP,ie. alternative
Canada
> food guide for followers of a vegitarian diet and also a 32 hour work week.
> The basic problem with the green party is that it is not rooted in the
> working class. The leader of the greens is by his own account, an eco-
> capitalist. There is a contradiction if I ever heard one!! Eco and
capitalist
> go together like oil and water, like socialist and capitalist. At least if
> you vote for a workers capitalist party(The NDP) when they sell you out,
like
> they have done provincially in the past,Labour is well oenough organised(I
> hope) to hold the fire to the feet of the NDP. Workers have the ability to
> withold there labour and in so doing, they can change the way the world is
> run. The workers are the only class that can end exploitation, envronmental
> destruction and war.You may be able to get some unity with consumers about
> buying organic as opposed to not organic, but when it comes to exploitation
> consumers can only wine and complain and have boycotts. The only thing
> boycotts do is changes the quality of the item being consumed,(if it is
sucessful) boycotts
can't
> change the basic dynamics of the system,What Marx call "the laws of motion
of
> the system", namely the drive for accumulation, the exploitation of wage
> labour and the tendancy for capitalist crises. The inherent evils of the
> basic dynamics of capitalism can only be dealt with effectively by those
who
> run the means of production, not by those who buy the fruits of labor. Eco-
> capitalist parties make you think that you have power as a consumer and
> because of that you can change things. The fact is the single mom with 2
kids
> still has to buy kraft dinner, she still will buy the $500 dollar clunker
car
> to get to work as apposed to the $20,00 electric car.
> Also, we in the SJM(social justice movment) talk of unity all the time
and
> we see it allot of the time, the teamster/turtle alliance in seatle, the
> pagans and the blac bloc and during the g-8 in calgary, rank and file
> unionist and food not bombs worked together to cook vegitarian meals to
feed
> the protesters. When it comes to voting, and we must respect the right of
> those who choose not to vote but that does not mean we do not try to
> convience people of the nececities of voting:our unity falls apart. We need
> to vote strategically. The only parties that are registered in this
election
> that can build in reforms that will help bring about a tranformation of
> society are 1, The Marxist-lenninist, who maybe have 500 card carrying
> members and 10,000 or so supporters and are running candidates in a few
> ridings, 2 The communist party who are in a simmalar way, altho the were
> stronger in the 30 and 40's not only electing candidates to parliment but
> were an important part on the ground and in the factories helping with
stuff
> like strikes and getting thousands involved in the international brigades
> that fought against franco and the facsists. 3 last but not least you have
> the NDP Who is the only left wing party poiesed to make gains and possibly
> become opposition, the other 2, athough there platform calls for good
> reforms, do not stand a chance in hell of electing anyone this upcoming
> election. I will be the first to admit that the NDP is too anthropocentric
as
> opposed to ecocentric.but the problem with environmentalists,(and I am an
environmentalist) is that some
> can be a little too ecocentric. Let's get one thing strait as much as I
love
> the trees and see them as much as my friends as do I see humans in my
> communitty, Trees are trees and humans are humans and never the twain shall
> meet!!!I have a passionate love for our planet, all the boimass and all the
> animals, but if you let your passions outweigh you logic, you will likely
> vote incorrectly. If one has a logical understanding of the dialectics of
> nature, they will realise that The groundwork for self-emancipation of the
> working-class of aoutonomy of self determenation and an end of all
> exploitation will never in a million years come from voting for the
greens!!
> I realise that capitalism is the cause of environmental degradation and
> because of that I am not going to vote for a eco-capitalist party. I hope
all
> of those who are thinking of voting green out there will see the logic of
my
> argument and follow me in voting for the NDP in the next election. Like
rosa
> luxemburg said, "reform is the training ground for revolution". We all want
a
> green revolution to happen, but that will only come to pass with a wokers
> revolution. Capitalism is pregnant with it's opposite. The russian
revolution
> was crushed by the fact that nieve, arrogant marxists in germany did not
have
> a full understanding of marx's theories. They nievly believed that the
> contradictions in the capitalist system would naturally play out and they
> only had to sit by passively and watch a natural transformation of society.
> Let us on the left, Red, green or whatever not make the same mistake the
> german social democrats made. As much as I hate our parlimentary and
> electoral sytem, I also realise that it can be a catylyst for reforms and
the
> only party capable of pushing through reforms for the workers and the
> environment are the NDP!!PLEASE GO AND VOTE AND VOTE NDP! The final choice
is
> ultamatley yours. if you do vote, make sure it it based on logic rather
then
> your passions. And just because you choose to vote, that does not mean you
> are legitimising the state.You vote, because you choose to. If you vote, It
> does not mean you are admitting the state is the end all and be all. you
will
> not automatically be defined as a voter and not an anarchist or a
> revolutionary if you decide to vote, that idea is rediculas. We will still
be
> revolutionaries the day before the vote and the day after the vote. Voting
> will not change that. We will not loose our identities as revolutionaries
> just because we decide to vote. I do not think it will hurt us to vote.
> Besides having the possibility for putting through reforms, our voting may
> help build comunication between The activist comunity and the middle class
> voters. some revolutions are lost or won on the backs of the middle class.
> Marx was a supporter of starting where your at. The middle class voters who
> we want to become revolutionaries are at the point where they think the
> voting system is it. Let's not only engage the middle class at the coffe
> shops and newstands or at ball or whatever but also in the voting line and
in
> the lead up to the vote. Again the choice is yours, I just hope you are
happy
> with your choice of choosing or not choosing to vote
> Aaron
>
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