[R-G] Re: Re: Political polarization of debate over 'Passion'... + hitler's Christianity
james m nordlund
realiteee1 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 2 06:29:48 MST 2004
Dear CJ, et al,
Hola! You wrote :) "I gather that the reference to populism has something to do with the Cross of Gold speech.CJ". I don't know what you're referring to, yet, this is a serious topic. Here's an educated reply to my post, as well as a reference to the supposed Christianity of hitler :)
"My own opinion somewhat follows the original article. I found the movie to
be shallow in its plot development and overbearingly horrific. One woman in
the audience broke down into fits of uncontrollable sobbing once the
flogging began and did not stop until the movie was over. In my opinion,
taking children along to such a movie would constitute child abuse.
The shallowness of the movie derives from the lack of context in which the
action takes place. Why are the Romans there in the first place? Why did
Judas Iscariot betray Jesus? What was the relationship between Caiphias and
the Romans? Who was Jesus and why was he put to death? No one in the film seems to have a motive for doing anything. Okay there is an exception,
Pilate does not want to upset his wife by having Jesus put to death, and he
does not want to put down another rebellion because Caesar will have him
executed. I think this lack of context flows from the ahistorical explanations by the ruling classes for everything from corporate globalisation, terrorism,
invasions, and so on. At least in "King of Kings" (1961), there was an attempt to put Jesus into a historical context of the brutal invasion by Pompey and the ongoing resistance by the Judeans to the occupation and cultural imperialism. This was developed into the theme of the two messiahs: one of peace and love
(Jesus) versus the one of war (Barrabas). Even in this movie, the
occupation was not seen as intrusive: the Romans only reacted to acts of
terror by the rebels. Douglas Hawthorne"
"Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:39:44 -0700, From: "cord macguire", Subject:
Hitler's Christianity, http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War
II, means that you must ignore history and bar yourself forever from
understanding how this atrocity occurred.
Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism (quotes from Mein Kampf)
Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the
Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the
work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and
experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein
Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country.
This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself.
The Christianity of Hitler revealed in his speeches and proclamations
Hitler's own words reveal his feelings for God, Christianity and faith.
Taken from speeches made by Hitler from the 1922 to 1939.
Hitler compared to God/Jesus/Christians
Hitler was not only a confessed Christian, but his intolerance and
atrocities were consistent with Biblical scripture and he acted as other
Christians of the past and present.
Quotes from Hitler's Henchmen and Nazi Sympathizers
A sample of quotes from Hitler's most powerful Nazis and sympathizers and
how they felt about Christianity, Church and God.
Christianity in Europe during WWII
The Catholic + Protestant Churches in Germany set the foundation for WWII
and the atrocities to occur. Popes, priests and nuns supported Hitler's
regime. Indeed, Hitler couldn't have come to power without Christianity's
Photos showing the Christianity of Hitler and his Nazi's and the involvement
of priests with Nazism.
Hitler's Bible--Monumental History of Mankind
Hitler's private notes show how the Bible influenced Hitler
Hitler's table talk and other extraneous sources"
What do you think? Lest "we" forget, if you don't exercise responsibility, its Siamese sister, freedom, will wither, as well. Sadly, now, it first needs to be exorcized before its exercised. As always, feel free to copy and share, as well. Viva la evolution! For those interested :) "of or pertaining to the morning, day: relating to or happening in the morning or in the early part of the day (formal), (Mid-16th century, from late Latin matutinalis, from Matuta, goddess of the dawn.)". Enjoy a festive eve' as you can. Au revoir.
Matutinally Yours, james m nordlund reality (aja) :)
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