[R-G] RE: Rad-Green digest, Vol 1 #248 - 4 msgs

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Today's Topics:

   1. Afghanistan a bumpy roadmap for Iraq (shniad at sfu.ca)
   2. I couldn't believe I was doing this (shniad at sfu.ca)
   3. Chavez: Dissident officers trying to provoke coup (ProletarianNews)
   4. Honduras: Cops repress anti-FTAA protesters (ProletarianNews)

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Message: 1
To: shniad at sfu.ca
From: shniad at sfu.ca
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:02:02 PDT
Subject: [R-G] Afghanistan a bumpy roadmap for Iraq
Reply-To: rad-green at lists.econ.utah.edu

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/politics/4349341.htm

St. Louis Post Dispatch   October 23, 2002

Afghanistan a bumpy roadmap for Iraq after a U.S. attack

BY JON SAWYER

WASHINGTON - KRT NEWSFEATURES (KRT) - Is Afghanistan a prototype of success
to come in Iraq, or a cautionary reminder that the toughest battles
sometimes occur after the guns of war go quiet?

As the United States marks the first anniversary of one attack and prepares
for a possible new war, the answer is far from clear.

At a White House ceremony this month, President George W. Bush acknowledged
that "there's still a lot of work to do in Afghanistan to achieve our dreams
- and more importantly, the dreams of the Afghan people."

Yet the general picture he painted was one of a society transformed:

Two million refugees, home again. Three million children back in school,
including girls banned from educational opportunities by the Taliban.
Hundreds of schools and hospitals under construction, plans for a major new
highway connecting the Afghan capital of Kabul to the regional centers of
Kandahar and Herat. There's even an American-style baseball league, Bush
said, and a team called the Eagles.

Bush closed his speech with a tribute to the Afghan people that sounded very
much like an appeal to the people of Iraq:

"We've seen in Afghanistan that the road to freedom can be hard, that it's a
hard struggle," the president said. "We've also seen in Afghanistan that the
road to freedom is the only one worth traveling.

"Any nation that sacrifices to build a future of liberty will have the
respect, the support, and the friendship of the United States of America."

But the $4.5 billion in international aid pledged to Afghanistan for the
next five years is less than half of what the World Bank has said
Afghanistan needs at minimum. Actual payments so far are averaging less than
two-thirds of the pledge amounts.

Bush acknowledged that the other donors had fallen short. "If you say you're
going to help the Afghan people, do it," he said. "If you've made a pledge,
write your check."

U.S. disbursements are nearly on track so far, but the administration has
balked at making additional contributions. The administration's budget for
the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30 contains no money explicitly targeted for
Afghan reconstruction, for example, and in August, Bush blocked an emergency
spending package that included $150 million for health and agricultural
programs in Afghanistan.

Security remains virtually nonexistent outside the immediate vicinity of
Kabul, the Afghan capital. The United States is funding a long-term program
for the training of a new national army; in the meantime, it has opposed
extending operations of the International Security Assistance Force beyond
Kabul.

Ali Jalali, director of Afghan radio operations for the Voice of America,
said the training of a national army had barely begun and that it enjoyed
tepid support from the northern alliance faction dominant in the central
government of President Hamid Karzai.

The army so far, Jalali said, is mostly an instrument of political
patronage. "You'll have more generals than colonels, more colonels than
majors and more officers than soldiers," he said.

Aid workers question some of the most dramatic claims of success. Most of
the children ostensibly back in school lack pencils, textbooks and teachers,
they say. Many of the displaced people are being returned to areas still in
the grip of a five-year drought. The resources required to meet their basic
needs may be diverted, they fear, to higher-profile projects like new roads.

"Looking at the potential now for a war in Iraq it's sobering to think of
all the unfinished work in Afghanistan," said Nancy Lindborg, a relief
specialist with Mercy Corps International who has worked with nongovernment
organizations in Afghanistan for 15 years.

"The president has spoken eloquently of the need for a Marshall Plan for
Afghanistan," Lindborg said, referring to U.S. reconstruction efforts in
Europe after World War II. "It's important to ensure that there's funding
behind that vision."

---

But while critics fault the Afghan follow-through, the administration is
talking even more boldly of a transformed, post-Saddam Iraq.

The administration made much of responding to a New York Times report that
said the administration was considering a years-long government of military
occupation in Iraq, on the order of Gen. Douglas MacArthur's five-year
tenure in Japan after World War II.

Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said it's "way too soon" to lay out a
detailed plan for the aftermath of a war that Bush has not yet decided to
fight. She also stressed, as did White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, that
any plan would entail detailed consultation with Iraqi dissidents, U.S.
allies and the United Nations.

Yet Fleischer also made it clear that using military civil-affairs units to
maintain order in a postwar Iraq is one option under consideration. He
dismissed concerns that Iraqis and Arabs throughout the region would resent
a direct and open-ended American role. Afghanistan, he said, proved the
opposite.

"Nobody is saying a war will not have difficulties and there will not be
casualties," Fleischer said. "My point is, the likelihood is much more like
Afghanistan, where the people who live right now under a brutal dictator
will view America as liberators, not conquerors."

Some specialists on Afghanistan and Iraq say the administration has misread
the similarities - and differences - between the two.

"We will not be judged by how we go to war," said Anthony Cordesman, a
senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International
Studies. "We will be judged by what happens after."

Cordesman, speaking at a recent conference sponsored by the Middle East
Policy Council, said that Bush as yet had done "absolutely nothing" to
explain to the public here - or in Iraq - what the postwar plan would be.

If war comes, Cordesman said, the United States must stress that the goal is
for Iraqis to create their own government - "that we do this as partners,
not dictators," in the name of forging a leadership "that serves Iraq's
needs and not our own."

"If we don't do that then all these other questions are moot," Cordesman
said. "Our military victory will be a grand strategic defeat."

---

Joseph C. Wilson, a former acting ambassador to Iraq, was the last U.S.
official to meet with Saddam Hussein before the Persian Gulf War. He said at
the conference that the Bush administration's continued focus on "regime
change" most likely means a ground invasion by U.S. troops and what he
termed a prolonged, "nasty" struggle for pacification and control.

"This isn't going to be like the (1983) invasion of Grenada or the (1974)
revolution in Portugal, where you had people sticking flowers in the guns of
soldiers," Wilson said. "The more likely outcome is going to be a very, very
nasty affair, with Shiite and Kurdish factions grabbing for power, reprisals
against Sunni Muslim followers of Saddam and, in the middle, a U.S. army of
occupation."

Geoffrey Kemp, director of regional strategic programs at the Nixon Center,
told the conference that administration planners had focused too much so far
on the best-case outcome for Iraq - a quick and successful intervention
backed by the United Nations - and not enough on the likely consequences
should the war go badly, in a situation where the United States is perceived
as acting mostly alone.

Even the best-case result is likely to come with ragged edges, Kemp warned.
"People recall how the French cheered in August 1944 as the U.S. troops
entered Paris," he said. "They forget that at the same time some 9,000
Frenchmen were being killed in the streets, in extra-judicial executions."

In Iraq, he predicted, "that will happen again."

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Message: 2
To: shniad at sfu.ca
From: shniad at sfu.ca
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:01:02 PDT
Subject: [R-G] I couldn't believe I was doing this
Reply-To: rad-green at lists.econ.utah.edu

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:21:42 -0400
From: ProletarianNews <bstoller at utopia2000.org>
To: rad-green at lists.econ.utah.edu, ANTINATO at topica.com
Subject: [R-G] Chavez: Dissident officers trying to provoke coup
Reply-To: rad-green at lists.econ.utah.edu

AP (with additional material by AFP). 24 October 2002. Venezuela's
Chavez says dissident officers trying to provoke coup.

CARACAS -- Military officers demanding elections are desperately trying
to incite a coup while cloaking themselves in the constitution and they
will be defeated, President Hugo Chavez said Thursday.

In his first reaction to the call to rebel by dozens of officers, Chavez
dismissed the protest as "a show" and said he had foiled a coup plot
linked to a Monday general strike against his government.

"We will continue to defeat them, one after another," he said.

Chavez called Thursday for the punishment of 14 officers who called on
the army and the public to overthrow the government.

"These desperate sectors tried to lead a military coup and are now
trying to hide that fact," Chavez told an official ceremony, referring
to the officers who launched their appeal Tuesday.

Hundreds of their supporters have refused to leave Plaza Francia, in the
capital's eastern Altamira district, declaring it a "liberated zone"
from government control. They won't budge, they say, until Chavez steps
down.

"No one could doubt that what they were planning was a crime; this group
of officers who called for a revolution and declared Plaza Francia a
liberated space, in doing so committed a crime," he added.

"They are playing some military game. They are not going to succeed in
seeing it through. They couldn't do it on April 11 when they had much
more backing," Chavez said.

"The (protesting) civilians aren't committing a crime, but they should
know that those in uniform are," Chavez said.

Chavez uncharacteristically congratulated television stations for
balanced coverage of the protest. He had accused TV of helping incite an
April coup that deposed him for 48 hours.

Chavez also defended his revolution against "neoliberalism."

"The world is changing, and for those who don't believe it, look at the
results of recent elections in Latin America," Chavez said, citing
preliminary wins by populist candidates in Brazil and Ecuador.

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ProletarianNews
http://www.utopia2000.org

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:20:15 -0400
From: ProletarianNews <bstoller at utopia2000.org>
To: rad-green at lists.econ.utah.edu, ANTINATO at topica.com
Subject: [R-G] Honduras: Cops repress anti-FTAA protesters
Reply-To: rad-green at lists.econ.utah.edu

AP. 24 October 2002. Police clash with teachers, workers in Honduras;
police, protesters, journalists injured.

TEGUCIGALPA -- Protesters clashed with police in front of Honduras'
Congress on Thursday and at least nine people were injured, including
three policemen and two journalists.

Protesters demolished a newly built barrier around the legislative
building and hurled sticks, rocks and bottles at police, who fired
rubber bullets and tear gas as well as blasting demonstrators with
water.

Police said that among those hospitalized after being beaten were
reporter Carlos Paz of Radio Reloj and photographer Mario Fajardo of the
newspaper La Tribuna.

The Popular Bloc, a coalition of about 30 leftist organizations,
sponsored the demonstration to demand pay increases for a broad range of
workers and against proposed regional free trade agreements.

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ProletarianNews
http://www.utopia2000.org
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