[Marxism] bureaucracy (was Mao, etc.)

[S. Artesian]

Comrade Waistline really has it wrong here.

If capitalism, as Marx analyzes, originates and reproduces itself based on 
the separation of the means of production from wage-labor,  or labor from 
the conditions of labor, then the overthrow of capitalsm and its replacement 
by socialism fundamentally requires the overthrow of that separation in the 
collective, social organization of production-- and that cannot happen 
without a revolutionary democracy.

That revolutionary democracy, exhibited in and by the soviets with a small 
s, is in embryo the "free association of producers" that Marxs sees as the 
communist transcendence of capitalist relations.

Abstracting economic from political relations is antithetical to the SOCIAL 
revolution that Marx perceives as the necessity in human history.

Bureaucracy is not a "neutral" development, but is the product of the 
unconquered antagonism betweeen city and countryside, the low level of 
productivity in general and even lower level of agricultural productivity 
specifically.  Bureaucracy is an expression of the fragility of the 
revolution, its ECONOMIC weakness.

No, the "economic" relations of socialism cannot exist while its "political" 
relations are deformed, or distorted by bureaucratic rule and the 
bureaucractic rule is an expression of the incompleteness of the economic 
relations and the reproduction of value, and value analagous relations 
inside the economy.  And none of this happens in isolation from the demands 
of the world market.

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] bureaucracy (was Mao, etc.)


> In a message dated 5/18/2009 11:44:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _milongonsinga at yahoo.com_ (mailto:milongonsinga at yahoo.com)  writes: