[Marxism] Fair warning: think before you post
Joaquin Bustelo
jbustelo at gmail.com
Sun May 3 17:27:48 MDT 2009
Craig Brozefsky writes:
"Don't forget these idiotic american leftists!
"http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=can-swine-flu-be-b
lamed-on-industri-09-05-01
"Of particular interest is the link to an interview with a CDC virologists
who discusses the lineage of the virus and it's origin in hog farming, but
also mixing with multiple steps where pig->human tranmission occured, and
then back, resulting in a mix of NA and Asian viral components."
* * *
Excuse me if this sounds like a personal insult, but this is why I specified
the AUDIENCE I have in mind is "rational, intelligent people." I should have
added: who can read at an adult level.
Specifically, I took up a workers world and another article that tried to
establish that the pig factory near La Gloria in Mexico was the likely
origin of the infection, with a nearby 5-year-old being the "patient zero"
of the infection. This is viewed as "radical" journalism but in reality is
simply a regurgitation of some of the countless stupidities put out by the
pig press, and not just on swines and flu.
Bozefsky latches on to ENTIRELY DIFFERENT pig farms and viral strains
identified more than a decade ago to comment ironically, "Don't forget these
idiotic American leftists," pointing to scientific articles and an interview
with the (BTW Argentine) head of virology at the CDC. As if this, in any
way, in the slightest, challenged or undercut what I had said.
Since this list seems to be attracting a particular kind of reader, let me
explain with an illustration.
Someone writes an article about the countless deaths and devastating
environmental damage caused by the meltdown at the Turkey Point Nuclear
Plant, pointing to someone with radiation poisoning near the plant.
I object, saying there have been no such deaths, no such environmental
destruction and no meltdown, and what needs to be explained is the one
anomalous case.
Comrade Bozefsky then charges in with scads of references to Chernobyl quite
seriously imagining he is not just refuting what I said, but even holding it
up to ridicule. And I am certain there are those in these parts who will see
it that way. Fine for them.
I don't necessarily spend much time on this list anymore, as I find it
unproductive and unstimulating. So I make no promises. But fair warning to
people who continue to post jackass asinine articles showing that even if
they don't have pig flu, they have pig-sized brains.
I may well decide to call you out on it.
THINK before you post, goddamit.
Joaquin
-----Original Message-----
From: marxism-bounces+jbustelo=gmail.com at lists.econ.utah.edu
[mailto:marxism-bounces+jbustelo=gmail.com at lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of
Craig Brozefsky
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:44 PM
To: Joaquin
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Flu origins
"Joaquin Bustelo" <jbustelo at gmail.com> writes:
> I have no interest in acquitting or convicting Smithfield's half-owned
> farm in Mexico. I DO have an interest in American leftists who are so
> hapless they flail about, polemical rapiers in hand, cut off their OWN
> heads, and then proudly hold their own heads up high, as if they were
> intent to prove to all and sundry that there are no brains in them.
Don't forget these idiotic american leftists!
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=can-swine-flu-be-bl
amed-on-industri-09-05-01
Of particular interest is the link to an interview with a CDC virologists
who discusses the lineage of the virus and it's origin in hog farming, but
also mixing with multiple steps where pig->human tranmission occured, and
then back, resulting in a mix of NA and Asian viral components.
http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/04/exclusive-cdc-h.html
> Then there's the following clause: "although new information suggests
> that this strain of the flu may actually have origins in the US as well as
Asia."
> Not to mention Canada. But what interests me in the actual PROOF left
> by our author that s/he doesn't have a clue what is being talked
> about. And that is the assertion that this strain of the flu "may
> actually have origins in the US as well as Asia."
This is what the CDC virologists is suggesting.
--
Sincerely, Craig Brozefsky <craig at red-bean.com>
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