[Marxism] A velvet revolution in Iran?

[S. Artesian]

OK, you are not a fascist apologist.

But NOBODY here is repeating CNN soundbites; nobody here is falling into the 
dichotomy you suggest, except possibly for you.

The first post I submitted posed as its first question:  Are these events 
precipitated, part and parcel, of the general economic contraction?  If so, 
then we can see that,  yes the protestors are arguing for a limited 
democracy, no they are not articulating socialism... and we can see that 
that "naivety," that liberalism is unavoidable in the initial eruptions of 
an economically determined distress through the volatile layers of students, 
young people, women,  the "petit-bourgeois"   They're not workers, after 
all.  And the struggle has not gained enough strength to dispense with veils 
of liberal politics, democracy, etc.

The struggle does not emerge fully conscious, even paritally conscious, of 
its own origins in the problems of accumulation and reproduction.  It cannot 
emerge fully conscious.  It has to develop in order to apprehend its own 
roots.

Sure the US is involved.  So what?  We don't endorse either of the factions 
contending for the government.  "We" "defend" as much as we can the 
protestors from the repression by the state, and non-state, armed forces. 
We endorse the workers' program of the type submitted by Fred in an earlier 
post.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brad bauerly" <bbauerly at gmail.com>
To: <sartesian at earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Marxism] A velvet revolution in Iran?


> Well this is one time that I think I disagree with S. Artesian.