[Marxism] FW: Report on Gaza demo on Berlin

[S. Artesian]

Encountered him on Loren Gouldner's Meltdown list,-- generally a pretty 
interesting list, with, however, some exceptions.   Paula is on that list 
too.  Took up James Heartfeld (spelling?) argument that this crisis has to 
be different from Marx's theory since there really wasn't capital 
investment, or what of it there was, was more than offset by the flood of 
wage-labor into the market with the entry of China, Vietnam etc. into the 
world trading network.

The list itself got into a 5 week debate over what constitutes productive 
and unproductive labor, whereas I argued that in the US, beginning in late 
2005 and continuing through 06 and 07, there was an upsurge in capital 
spending-- and an increase in wage rates and the overall wage-bill.  Was 
hoping Novus and others would provide some data from Europe or Asia-- no 
such luck-- 5 weeks on productive vs. unproductive labor.   Theoretician 
critique thyself!
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From: "Louis Proyect" <lnp3 at panix.com>