[Marxism] against diversity

[Aaron Aarons]

>From: "Joaquin Bustelo" <jbustelo at gmail.com>
>Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:17:39 -0400
>
>Aaron writes, "Just sticking to the racism issue for a moment, it's clear
>that limited victories over *formal* white supremacy have gone hand-in-hand
>with the strengthening of *real* white supremacy."
>
>I'm going to duck out of this debate with Aaron. I've got no time for
>economist fools who think that's what's happened in the U.S. or South Africa
>is a strengthening of "*real* white supremacy."

I've been called a fool many times, but it's been a very long time since I've been called "economist"!

Here's the sentence that followed the one Joaquin quoted:

"This is most blatantly obvious in the case of South Africa, where formal racial equality has been accompanied by a sharp increase in real racial *inequality* and, in fact, an absolute as well as relative decline in the material conditions of the Black masses."

If being more concerned with the material conditions of life of the Black masses than with the ability of a layer of Black bourgeoisie to share in the fruits of exploitation of those masses makes me "economist", so be it.

I'm curious, Joaquin: Did you as a member of the SWP at the time (I gather you were!) support their line that "The ANC is the sole legitimate representative of the South African people"? Do you support it now? If you do, I don't see any prospects for our agreeing on much about South Africa.

>Also the debate about how the 3/5th compromise wasn't about white supremacy.

I think Shane answered that pretty well.

>Anyways, If I expressed what I REALLY think about some of these folks's
>positions, I'm sure Louis would have to throw me out of the list in no time.
>
>Joaquin