[Marxism] Newsflash: Social movements don't go to DP to die

[S. Artesian]

Charles is historically challenged here. Point of fact.  The Vietnam War did 
not end in 1973.  It ended in 1975.  US supply of SVN continued until the 
very end.  US logistical support continued as long as the SVN army was 
battle capable, although somewhat more secretly than before.

1972 saw the Christmas Bombing of Vietnam to force North Vietnam back to the 
bargaining table where it agreed to a cease fire agreement with the US in 
1973.

According to logic of Charles, that constitutes an achievement of the 
anti-war movement's goals.

I was in the anti-war movement.  Nobody I worked with in that movement 
regarded the Christmas Bombing, the forced resumption of negotiations, or 
that cease fire as one of the goals.

Again, we must be talking about 2 different anti-war movements.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Brown" <charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us>
To: <sartesian at earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:15 PM
Subject: [Marxism] Newsflash: Social movements don't go to DP to die


> > ^^^^
> CB: You are logically challenged here.  The Vietnam peace movement
> started independently of the DP, as Sartesian said. But when it went
> into the DP in the McGovern election of 1972 far from dying, it
> succeeded , as the Viet Nam war was ended by 1973 (!).  This is the
> complete opposite of what Sartisian claimed happens upon going into the
> DP.  The peace movment changed the DP rather than the DP changing the
> peace movement.
>
>