[Marxism] The Myth of the Black-Gay Divide

[Aaron Aarons]

>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:29:57 -0800
>From: Jeffrey Thomas Piercy <mqduck at sonic.net>
>
>This is really a horrible counter-argument. This person has nothing against marriage, she's just saying that gay rights aren't important.

She's NOT "saying that gay rights aren't important". She's saying that this particular gay right -- the right to marriage -- is not important, or at least not important enough for her to defend it at this time, when she had other priorities.

I don't necessarily agree with her, especially her implied support for Obama, even if she doesn't mention him.

>It just wasn't worth any of her time and that still doesn't explain why she voted against it.

She doesn't say in the article how she voted on Prop. 8.

>Ruthless Critic of All that Exists wrote:
>
> > Full: <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-cannick8-2008nov08,0,3295255.story>
[SNIP]

 - Aaron

P.S. By the way, I posted an earlier comment on this topic with what I thought was a more appropriate Subject header. I'll repeat it here:

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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:54:09 -0800
From: Aaron Aarons <aaron at mylists.fastmail.fm>
Subject: [Marxism] Gay marriage: neither for nor against

>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:24:39 -0500
>From: "Ruthless Critic of All that Exists" <ok.president+marxml at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Marxism] The Myth of the Black-Gay Divide
>
>On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Jeffrey Thomas Piercy
><mqduck at sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> There is a movement among queer people and their supporters to gain
>> equality in marriage laws. There is another movement by those who want
>> to oppress homosexuals, who work to oppose gay marriage. Who's side are
>> you on, David?
>
>"If you're not with us, you are against us"?

I would put it a bit differently:

1) When there are two opposed political movements, one doesn't necessarily have to support either one.

2) One can and, IMO, should oppose those who actively oppose gay marriage. This does not, however, require one to take an affirmative stand in favor of gay marriage or to support the movement to gain equality-in-marriage laws.

 - Aaron
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