[Marxism] A clarification of my view of Kosova independence andKosova "independence"

[Michael Karadjis]

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> bounces+mkaradjis=theplanet.net.au at lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of
> Mehmet Cagatay
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2008 2:07 AM

> In the present state of affairs of Kosovo, it is not even a "bourgeois
> democratic movement". It is the movement of chauvinism of reactionary
> forces raised above the backwardness and oppression, heartened by
> imperialist intentions. 

Not sure what you base this statement on. The national aspiration of the
Kosovar Albanians for independence (a) is absolutely universal among
their people - try finding anyone for less, and (b) a century-long, they
have basically never strived for less, and never recognised the
imperialist-sanctioned carve-up of the ethnic Albanian space in 1913.
And given that they have suffered oppression ever since (the period
1968-81 a partial exception), on what basis is their continued striving
for this elementary goal of self-determination "chauvinist"? Is the
Kurdish struggle in Turkey also chauvinist for fighting for
independence? Since the demand for independence is so universal among
Kosovars, are the whole nation chauvinists for wanting it?

It is the aspiration of Albanian elites to
> forge a
> representation of independency where there is no viable ground for a
> genuine independent economic existence other than the donations of
> imperialist powers.

On what basis do you say this? How is that different from dozens of
other "independent" countries around the world locked in extreme
poverty? Should they all be denied independence on the spurious basis
that there are "no viable grounds for independent economic existence"?
Is such a thing possible for any small or even medium non-imperialist
country under capitalism? Does it also apply to East Timor, Eritrea,
Bangladesh and other small countries that have fought for independence?
And in that case, if what you say is true, then shouldn't they have the
right to unify with the rest of the Albanian-speaking nation in the
Balkans, to make life more "viable"? 
> 
> "The issue now is: if Kosovo becomes independent (as is the aspiration
> of
> most of its population) are we to respect/accept that, or advocate
> forcible re-conquest?"
> 
> .....
> 
> No. I will not respect/accept or advocate forcible re-conquest.
> 
Glad you won't advocate reconquest. But no need to worry about that
anyway, imo. Serbia has not the slightest intention of foolishly
drowning itself in its own Vietnam by attempting to force two million
people, who will immediately again dig up the weapons which they dug
into their gardens under orders form NATO in 1999. NATO saved Serbia fro
its approaching Vietnam, from what I can see about 1999.