[Marxism] Once again on the ANC betrayal of South Africa's poor.
Tom Cod
tcod at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 2 08:31:48 MST 2008
Yes, that may be true, but that doesn't address the issue of the dismantling of apartheid,
an historic political victory, apartheid having been a system of throroughgoing instituionalized race segregation
in which blacks-80% of the population- were excluded from whites only areas by law including the heart of many cities
(unless they were working there as servants) and in which blacks had no political rights,
being deemed citizens of shitty little "Bantustsans" that comprised 13% of the land area and being required to carry
internal IDs like the blacks under Andrew Johnson's "Black Codes". Thus the abolition
of this system, like of Jim Crow in the South was a big victory etc that established basic democratic rights.
Does that make the ANC perfect? NO. economic times are tough there as they are throughout the third world and getting worse, including
this country but that begs the question at issue here.
The passage of the 13, 14 and 15th Amendments, could be viewed as a deal brokered by politicians,
in a historic situation of mass struggle, but does that make them bad? No, they are bulwarks of our
democratic rights that should be recognized as such and upheld on that basis.
I think you are confusing and conflating national oppression, racial discrimination and economic explotiation in your
analysis. Zionists for example often point to economic figures to try and show that arabs are better off in Israel,
that analysis, even if true, begs the national question.
> The oppression of blacks is nothing like what it was during apartheid, > of course that's true. In qualitative and quantitative ways, though, the > oppression of poor black people has increased:> >> > > ________________________________________________> YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.> Send list submissions to: Marxism at lists.econ.utah.edu> Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/tcod%40hotmail.com
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