[Marxism] Obama - either/or

[Dbachmozart at aol.com]

Mike Friedman wrote - 
 
you are either part of the movement as a way of engaging people in  
discussion around issues .... 
or you are a sectarian.
 
reply -
 
In general, this is great advice ... when it comes to a movement. We can  
work with activists against the war, in defense of immigrant workers' rights,  
whatever, and talk politics while doing worthwhile work. Even if the  
organizations that we would be working in are led by reformists, we haven't  crossed a 
class line. But this is a bourgeois electoral campaign, not a movement  that we 
believe in and want to build. The only way to have worthwhile  discussions 
with the many open-minded people working for Obama  ... is to  work for Obama. 
Would it be sectarian to refuse to go that far?
 
Mike -
 
is labeling Obama "a Cintonite with a Black face" the best way
to do  this? In the context of the racist under (and over) tones of the
campaign  against Obama, how would this sound to millions of people
desirous of change  and expressing this through the Obama campaign?
 
 
reply --
 
I agree - I offered this formulation for this list only. 




All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it  is 
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur  
Schopenhauer (1788-1860)



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