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Benjamin Morgan
foreverblaze89 at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 30 17:00:46 MDT 2007
Comrade Ben:
(sigh) unity for the 9/11 truth movement. I will not take such a hard line stance as Mark. However, your assertions that the truth movement can subsume the anti-war movement are quite preposterous. As for all conspiracy theories from the (JFK assassination to the present) there have been massive splits in support. To believe that traditional Marxist-Leninist movements or the equivalent anti-war counterparts will accept this as there platform seems sort of Utopian. (When I went to Atlanta for the U.S Social Forum a tiny booth dis paying 9/11 truth was located behind a remote staircase in the outermost corner of the convention center. I watched several (leftist) pass the booth by as the hippie looking organizer attempted to gather support. intrigued by the response I approached the little table and engaged in a discussion with the guy. As I talked i noticed only a few out of every 10 leftist would approach the booth.) The point of my digression is to illustrate the divide
in the left on this particular issue now I will attempt to debunk the more substantive debate.
The 9/11 truth campaign raises several decent points which hardliners like Mark seem to over look with hasty generalizations. First, a number of survivors have given testimony's claiming that they heard explosions from the base of the buildings. The World Trade Center buildings were built to with stand plane crashes (note the reinforces steel structures) The fires that burned in the world trade centers were very smoky and gray indicative of a lack of oxygen or a incomplete burn which would make the collapse of the steel structure quite ridiculous. No only has fire never historically collapsed a steel structure before 9/11 the partial burning fire some how obliterated the fire retardant and proceeded to melt the steel to the point of collapse. Even if a few structural beams somehow collapsed the domino theory is crazy 4 or 5 stories couldn't bring down 43 non fire damaged ones in the blink of an eye; three times on the same day? Secondly, it is quite strange that the 9/11
commission waited an awful long time to conduct its report (well after the structural steel was removed) Finally, No plane ever hit World Trade Center Building 7. Officials claim that the debris hit building 7 like a "volcanic eruption" and multiple fires caused it to collapse in the same fashion. Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane this is outlandish. Also, The majority of the debris wasn't flaming (I guess the melting structural beams did the damage) and several other buildings like the Verizon building were damaged but did not collapse. According to the scientific logic of the first two building building 7 shouldn't have collapsed the EXACT SAME WAY. Plus Larry A. Silverstein who owned the properties seemed to have made a pretty penny off of September 11
In conclusion, the 9/11 truth movement has a lot of valid points (i have outlined only a few) I do believe that it is a large possibility that the U.S has used the attacks as a method of threat construction. I also think that Osama could have still played a part in the attack (however I doubt his role was as big as he believes) I urge the advocates of the 9/11 truth to keep up the fight and comrades like Mark to become less pessimistic.
Ben
Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
~ Ernesto "Che" Guevara
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