[Marxism] A workers revolt is inevitable. Whether it succeeds depends on all of us and in belief in our own united power.

[Naveen Jaganathan]

Bonnie wrote: "Mark said I didn't criticize the Democratic party and only
picked on the
Greens? I am picking on the Greens because they lead people to vote for the
Democrats--war mongers; murders of children; profiteers from the blood of
the innocent; vampires of the poor and disenfranchised; despotic leaders in
cooperation and agreement with each other that the U.S. Should be on
top--economically, militarily and in every way. Both parties agree to
that--demand that and are united against the masses of the world to attain
that at any cost as long as the cost is NOT to themselves!"

Com. Bonnie,

The Green party remains controlled by an undemocratic clique precisely
because the organized Left inside it weak to effect change the other way.
The Green party is above all else an electoral coalition whose program is
not carved in stone and who do not have any real power or a track record
that can be declared as bourgeois.  New Paltz mayor fighting for gay
marriage is just as much a part of the Greens as the Demo-green scum bags
who decided not to challenge the Dems in '04.  A useful question would be is
it worth our efforts to fight to establish the Green party on more
independent lines?

I think it is worth it.  Why? Because there are whole layers of peole we can
win towards building independent politics and even towards rev. socialist
politics.  What about the people in the Green party, we are talking about a
layer of hundreds of thousands who voted for Nader-Laduke in '00, and
Nader-Camejo in '04, Camejo in gubernatorial campaigns, the many number of
Black liberation fighters not coopted by the Dems, the leadership of the
immigrant rights movement in California, the prison reformers in CT (where
I'm active), and on and on.  The politics of these people is working class
politics, whether they articulate it that way or not.  If you don't fight
for these people, to win them to organizing on an independent platform
unapologetically anti-Republocrat politics then you are missing an
opportunity to create the independent Left you desire.

It is ultraleft, and you are sitting on the side lines hoping for a party to
emerge to your political likings.  Real politcis is messy business, you get
in there and you fight.  The question is who will be pulling who? In your
estimation does getting involved in the Greens going to pull people like you
or me towards the Dems? If we don't win this fight we move on, try and hope
to build other formations.  May be even take the independent Greens with us?

--N>