[Marxism] [Cum grano salis] In clubbing there lies hope

Nestor Gorojovsky nestorgoro at fibertel.com.ar
Tue Jul 31 06:11:53 MDT 2007


> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:24:30 -0400
> From: Louis Proyect <lnp3 en panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Iranian academic criticizes government policies
> 
> Walter Lippmann wrote:
> > Maljoo thinks that they have democracy in Iran, quite a positive
> > assessment. He's worried about it's fate, but he thinks that they
> > have democracy. That's my impression as well. At least as much of
> > a democratic system as one can have under capitalism, which is a
> > limited form, but at least Iran does have a democratic electoral
> > system. The candidate who got the largest number of votes during
> > the last election occupies the office of the presidency. 
> 
> Nobody has ever argued that Iran is a totalitarian dictatorship. There is,
> however, extra-legal repression directed against the workers, students,
> women and minorities--including murder and torture when the need arises.
> Turkey had the same kind of democracy under the Kemalists. So did Mexico
> under the PRI.

That is, they are all _bourgeois democracies_. Since they are on the 
fringes of the "civilized" world, their failings are simply under 
permanent scrutiny by the "civilized" media, and what looks 
"normalcy" in the US looks as either an outrage or a victory of 
revolutionary forces (it depends on the point of view) elsewhere.

But in the end that is all that there is to it. 

I have discovered that Walter and Louis form a dialectical pair. Take 
Walter's positions, and Louis's comments, and you will find that 
while clubbing each other on the head Walter and Louis give us more 
than a few deep insights on the reality around us. 

Perhaps this is what is meant by "in contradiction lies hope". 

Let us just be careful that no actual clubbing takes place.

:-)

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Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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