[Marxism] ANSWERs call
Benjamin Morgan
foreverblaze89 at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 2 15:01:23 MDT 2007
Comrade Ben: Honestly both the UfPJ and ANSWER are
both severely exclusive . Andys right ANSWER had no
openly inclusive meeting other than the Palestine one
where the leaders engaged in the classic bitching
about Hamas while passing out flyers rallying support
for their exclusive march on Washington. Adversely the
UFPJ had open workshops at the social forum where its
leaders, waxing nastalgic in vanguardism, went on self
intoxicating rants about social responsibility while
restricting the engagement of the public in the
conversation. In short both the UFPJ and ANSWER are
exclusive and arguably sectarian. They are the best
examples of how vanguardism promotes intellectual and
social masturbation.
--- marxism-bounces at lists.econ.utah.edu
<acpollack2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Eli writes:
>
>
> "ANSWER had been circulating its proposal for a
unified, mass
> demonstration ON A DATE TO BE DECIDED BY ALL
CONCERNED JOINTLY since May.
> Only AFTER UfPJ voted at its convention not to
support that proposal and
> join in such an action, and announce their own
regional actions for Oct. 27,
> did ANSWER, together with other organizations
including Code Pink, Gold Star
> Families for Peace, Latino Movement USA and the
National Lawyers Guild,
> announce a march on the White House for Sept. 15 "
> OK, show me the minutes of the meeting, or even a
verbal description, of the
> meeting, where these groups decided on Sept. 15. You
can't. Because
> it didn't happen. There was no open-to-all
conference, not even
> an invite-only meeting of these groups. You just
called them for
> an endorsement.
> And as for the Palestine workshop, obviously it
would have been
> better if UFPJ had approved these measures in the
plenary. My
> point was that we made progress by getting them
approved at a
> workshop led by UFPJ's central leaders of this work.
At the
> next conference we can take the next step.
> Not at an ANSWER conference though.
> Prove me wrong. I'll be attending your conference in
July. Let's
> see just how democratic it is.
> Andy
>
>
>
>
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