[Marxism] Happy anniversary
Jscotlive at aol.com
Jscotlive at aol.com
Sun Oct 22 22:03:32 MDT 2006
In a message dated 23/10/2006 01:26:04 GMT Daylight Time, lnp3 at panix.com
writes:
This invasion discredited the Soviet Union in the world's eyes. It
made people question whether socialism was an advance over capitalism
if it had to be imposed by bayonets from the outside. Only two years
before the USSR was sending in tanks to "defend " socialism in
Hungary, it had cut a deal with the West to cheat the Vietnamese out
of their national sovereignty. It is depressing to hear this kind of
Manichean politics defended here. I don't know about this character
Bela Liptak that Lance referred to, but I do know that George Lukacs
was opposed to the Soviet intervention. That's good enough for me.
Reply:
It's not good enough to say that because Lukacs was against the uprising
then that is enough. Surely we have to look at the forces involved, what was at
stake, and who stood to benefit from any possible outcome. Through the prism
of time we are able to take a much more objective view of these various
factors and come up with a more sober assessment. The collapse of the SU has been a
disaster for the international working class. The Hungarian Uprising, which
came on the back of Khruschev's speech at the Twentieth Congress, placed the
entire Soviet Bloc in peril at a time when the rigid control of the
Bureacracy was loosening under Khruschev's influence. The planned economy had to be
protected and I am not convinced the uprising in Hungary was the pure workers
revolt commonly portrayed in the West. There were monarchists and rightists
involved, ex-members of the expropriated bourgeoisie.
Yes, the intervention discredited the SU in the eyes of the world, but so
did Kronstadt. The question we need to ask is: was the intervention necessary
based on what was at stake?
JD
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