[A-List] Onward, Christian Zionists - The Boston Globe

[Suzanne de Kuyper]

I find that the more the fundamentalists proliferate the more called into
action are the NATO Colonies and the regular and mercenary (many more of
them exist) U.S. troops!  All forms of hate are useful to a war
empire...makes more wars, which are then used up to take over spheres of
influence, interest and commercial future usefulness
.   A supine population of a strategically placed, once sovereign country,.
(war takes away sovereignity when resisting the U.S.as in Holland which
resisted joining the E,U, resisted sending any troops to Iraq or
Afganistan,resisted signing the "File Sharing Agreement and presently is in
U.S/Israeli iron grip which only now the politicians are siding against, all
but Wilders so 30% of us are terrified, the rest have become criminal
hopelessly) is really cool....Everybody just loves the very idea of
Holland...Wilders is changing that  perception as everyone thought he is an
aberration, he's now obviously not. He now represents about 76 % of the
country.   The US finds him quite useful, sort of like Netanyahu,  Only
smaller, in every way... Or like the usefuless of the Shah of Iran.

I am being watched within an inch of my life!  In Mosque just before prayer
it happened and then during 11 pm prayer, and then when a sister gave me a
ride home two cars were blocking the oneway driveway at my street and
refused to move until it became clear she (was a she)would outwait them.  I
assume they wanted to see if she was a he as I am watched even in the
grocery store.  If I do not were headscarf, often, I get universal dirty
looks, not just dirty but hate-filled.   If I do not turn on my tv people
will ring my doorbell (never happens otherwise) and, when I go, come in and
open up all the doors.   In Dutch class other weirdnesses from others,(
always the same ones) happen directed at me, with either hate or humiliating
stuff like mentioning the sex life of 100 year old women while staring at
me.   Which started last year with women, fluent dutch speaking 'students',
would hurry to sit beside me and stroke my hand, their knee buttting mine,
then when I turn to stare at them,  would turn their hips to me and wave one
hand between the opened knees, grinning at me.  Teacher said she never saw
it, all the Muslim ladies did and were aghast, silently.  The teacher knew
it was going one allowed it,

Up to now I have been facinated to learn who is directing this and am close.
  It's aim has always been quite clear, to destroy me in every way possible
and to try and force me to join in destroying myself.  So this action wanted
on my part is visible to all who could make a record of compliance.

Sounds like a grotsque dream of a madperson, it is but that person is not me
which is
becoming more clear to anyone subject to seeing this evolve.  Besides
what I have written, the aim is also to change international law.  I
own the corporate name, the U.S. contract to sell, manufacture and
distribute is completely illegal as is the new form of the firm.
 If the Dutch could be forced into killing me themselves that would be cool
becasue they wold then be changing their own International Human Rights
Laws, therefore I was to be seen as a monster who did (fill in the blanks)
such incredible stuff as civilian extermination was right and just....over
riding any former laws.  The doers would be fetted as patriots.  It was to
become an open came of catch the evil mouse.   I kid you not.  My going back
to Islam angered alot of people.   I could not longer be labeled a sexual
pervert, almost killing close friends was no longer a cool way to isolate
me...the Mulsim community too close, so they are changing the Polder Mosque!
  Is the work of mad-men.  Very big, very organized, very rich.   Holland is
to be and to remain, their plaything at any cost of any kind.

Fundamentalism is the product of facist movements, no visa
versa, which is why fomenting hate speeech s so vital, why mass
population assasinations by drones or uranium tipped bombs are so
necessary
and will never be stopped, only increased...Only now natural disasters offer
big opportunity for nature to do the extermination work, just be too slow to
inadequate in responses. Presto chango! World population of extranious
people is down by two thirds!

There was a postin while ago that said for the world of civilzation of
remain only a small percent of those who
practice it are needed, but they are key.  The changes in the Polder
Mosque are an example of how the U.S. Corporate War Empire intends to
hollow out Islam.

Suzanne

 What a wonderful change you are for your family!   Sounds like they needed
a breath of fresh air, and here you are
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Karen <kcourtenay at aol.com> wrote:

> Right. Too many of them in my family....
>
> This is part of a series by Carroll - some of the articles better than
> others.  We had this one in the list on Monday:
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> *Onward, Christian Zionists;  Deep-rooted Christian tradition has put its
> mark on British, US policies in Mideast / James Carroll*<http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/08/23/onward_christian_zionists/>
> FUNDAMENTALISM IS the problem: that assertion defines the diagnostic mantra
> of Middle East conflict. The Jewish settlers’ “Bloc of the Faith’’ movement
> (Gush Emunim), with the agenda of restoring biblical Israel, is discussed as
> one instance of fundamentalism. Religious jihadists, aiming to re-establish
> the lost Caliphate of Islam, are discussed as another. Wacky Christians are
> sometimes spoken of, like the mentally unbalanced Australian who set fire to
> the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem in 1969.
>
> http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/08/23/onward_christian_zionists/
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>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Suzanne de Kuyper <suzannedk at gmail.com>
> To: kcourtenay at aol.com <KCourtenay at aol.com>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2010 11:50 am
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> Date: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:19 PM
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> August 23, 2010
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> TURNING HISTORY INTO HOPE | JAMES CARROLL
> Onward, Christian Zionists Deep-rooted Christian tradition has put its
> mark on British, US policies in Mideast
> By James Carroll
> FUNDAMENTALISM IS the problem: that assertion defines the diagnostic mantra
> of Middle East conflict. The Jewish settlers’ “Bloc of the Faith’’ movement
> (Gush Emunim), with the agenda of restoring biblical Israel, is discussed as
> one instance of fundamentalism. Religious jihadists, aiming to re-establish
> the lost Caliphate of Islam, are discussed as another. Wacky Christians are
> sometimes spoken of, like the mentally unbalanced Australian who set fire to
> the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem in 1969.
> But the word fundamentalism can obscure as much as it illuminates,
> especially in the way it seems to lump the sources of trouble on the extreme
> edge of belief. What if a decidedly mainstream tradition, rooted not in the
> Middle East but in Britain and America, is a historic key to the tangle that
> so far resists every effort at unknotting? Not wacky Christians, but the
> ordinary faithful. What if fundamentalism, in other words, is not the crime
> but the evidence — evidence of a destructive, yet widespread religious
> attitude that contributes to the political impasse that continues to stymie
> Palestinian and Israeli peace negotiators?
> Christian Zionism is shorthand for the idea that the return of Jews to the
> Holy Land is a pre-requisite for the return of Jesus the Messiah, and the
> final redemption of the world. Believers who take this notion literally (and
> are understood, in that sense, to be fundamentalist) have been central
> players in the drama of Palestine for almost two centuries. A particular
> biblical verse seized the imagination of such Christians. (“O that the
> salvation Of Israel were come out of Zion! When God bringeth back the
> captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice and Israel shall be glad’’ —
> Psalm 56:6. St. Paul cited this verse in Romans 11:26, and Christians took
> it from there.)
> This idea of Jewish return to Zion as the climax of salvation history has
> resonance dating to the Babylonian Captivity nearly six centuries before
> Christ. No surprise, perhaps, that the enthused religious “awakenings’’ of
> 19th century evangelical Protestants therefore jelled around the literal
> restoration of Jews to their traditional homeland. We saw in a previous
> column how Catholicism regarded such return of Jews as anathema, but the
> so-called “restorationist’’ Protestant concern for Jews was not truly
> friendly. Rather, the restored Jews were only to be instruments of the final
> triumph of Christianity. Jews again in Israel would be faced with the choice
> of conversion or damnation.
> This might seem like esoteric religious mumbo-jumbo, but it centrally
> motivated two of the three most important elements in the establishment and
> survival of the state of Israel — British intervention in Palestine and
> American support for the Jewish state (the third element, of course, is
> Jewish resolve itself). Yes, other factors always counted, like imperial
> expansion, secular Zionism, oil reserves, and superpower politics. But
> Christian religious fervor was igniting and sustaining. Thus, when the
> British prime minister and onetime Baptist lay preacher Lloyd George
> dispatched Field Marshal Edmund Allenby to Palestine in 1917, neither
> military nor political strategy was paramount. George told Allenby to
> capture “Jerusalem before Christmas as a Christmas present for the British
> people.’’
> The Holy Land was to be the place of a dream rescue from the horror of the
> trenches. That the dream was unreal, of course, is why it did not include
> the Arabs who already lived in Palestine. It was a 19th century British
> Christian restorationist who coined the mistaken and still fateful phrase “a
> land without a people for a people without a land.’’
> Christian Restorationism drove a large European arrival in Palestine. The
> West Jerusalem area known as “the German Colony,’’ for example, was settled
> by millennial-minded German evangelicals who came to convert Jews. So, too,
> “the American Colony,’’ the vestige of which remains in the chic East
> Jerusalem hotel of that name. Indeed, Christian Zionism grew even more
> powerful in the United States than in Europe. Between a third and a half of
> all mid-19th century Americans were evangelical Christians, and this vision
> enlivened most of them. What began as an obsession of the devout became
> general, affecting even so religiously detached a figure as Abraham Lincoln.
> “Restoring the Jews to their national home in Palestine,’’ he wrote in 1863,
> “is a noble dream and one shared by many Americans.’’ Always, the imagined
> Jewish achievement was implicitly to be at the service not of Jewish
> vindication, but of an eschatological Christian triumph.
> We noted in an earlier column that the Vatican’s 1948 refusal to recognize
> the state of Israel reflected that Catholic theology of Jewish dispersal. In
> a similar, if opposite, way the evangelical theology of Jewish restoration
> was part of what prompted President Harry S. Truman’s recognition of Israel
> within hours of its declaration of independence. Yes, Truman had political
> (an upcoming election) and moral (rescuing Hitler’s victims) reasons for the
> action, but, his lifelong association with the Christian Zionist agenda, as
> a Baptist and member of the American Christian Palestine Committee, had
> already deeply prepared him. US policy ever since has similarly reflected a
> mixture of power politics, electoral considerations, and profound moral
> commitment. Yet Americans are properly proud of what Truman did. Most
> realize that, whatever the complexity of his motives, supporting Israel was
> the right thing to do. Alas, as was true of those 19th-century Christian
> restorationists, this vision readily lost sight of the actual existence and
> life-conditions of Arabs and Palestinians. 1948 was momentous for them, too,
> and they still await a full recognition of their own.
> Christian religious fervor, having become a mainly subliminal current,
> broke into the open as an acknowledged pillar of US Middle East policy with
> the arrival of the so-called Religious Right. The avatar of that arrival was
> Reverend Jerry Falwell, leader of the so-called Moral Majority. With
> President Ronald Reagan, who met with Falwell more often than with any other
> religious leader, Falwell revitalized the Christian Zionist fantasy of a
> restored Jewish nation as prelude to Christ’s return.
> Together, Reagan and Falwell laid the groundwork both for the reinvention
> of the Republican Party as the vanguard of American Christian nationalism,
> and for the rock-solid contemporary alliance between right-wing Christians,
> powerfully centered in the US Congress, and the government of Israel. The
> more recalcitrant that government, the more such Christians like it, not
> only because they envision a “biblical’’ Israel throughout Palestine, but
> also because, since 9/11, they see Israel as a front in the anti-Islamic
> clash of civilizations. Never mind that most Israelis see no such thing.
> Most Americans, meanwhile, watch in befuddlement as openly Christian notes
> of identity intrude ever more powerfully on the public square, threatening
> to make faith in Jesus a touchstone of full citizenship.
> The irony here is breathtaking. Pursuing an ultimate form of realpolitik,
> Israeli leaders happily collaborate with a reactionary American religious
> movement which, while having learned to downplay its Jew-denigrating End
> Time theology, nevertheless aims in its very essence at the elimination of
> Jewish faith. Israeli leaders, in their dependence on such Christians,
> exchange short-term benefit for long-term jeopardy. American Christian
> Zionism is a particularly lethal form of contemporary fundamentalism.
> Theologically uncritical and dangerously triumphalist, it is bad for Israel,
> Palestine, America, and peace.
> *James Carroll’s column appears regularly in the Globe. This is the fourth
> of six special columns, which will appear every other week. His new book,
> coming early in 2011, is “Jerusalem, Jerusalem: The Ancient City that
> Ignited the Modern World.’’ *
>
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