[A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity

[Nadja Tesich]

James and others,
James was right,I was wrong.
I imagined that Todd was just funny.
 
I was never hurt by US propaganda because I knew what they were doing.
I was not hurt by ex-friends who always knew me as a Yugoslav, when they asked 
from where and I said from Belgrade.
Them:'You don't look like them".
Me:'What do they look like"
Them:Not like you.You are so nice."
And then I would tell them that they are wrong since I always carry a knife
in my vest.Just liberals who knew nothing and they would run away,poor things.
 
BUT I was hurt by Todd ONLY because he was on this list. And it was unexpected.
 
Don't worry about me.I have seen many dead and wounded by USA. in Yugoslavia.
Nothing left to say.
Nadja
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> From: james.irldaly at ntlworld.com
> To: a-list at lists.econ.utah.edu
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:32:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
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> Nadja's sarcasm is well justified, Todd, as calling her whole people (and by
> implication, her) Assholes is totally unacceptable on this list, which has
> been free from such a debasement of standards for many years.
>
> You have said you wanted the list to be an education in Marxism, and the
> history of Yugoslavia is a good place to start. The "A plague on both your
> houses" approach is usually a result of ignorance, and ignores the key
> distinction (useful in so-called "ethnic" situations, including Ireland)
> made by Lenin and the 1920 20th party Congress between the (self
> preservative) nationalism of the oppressed and the (imperialist) nationalism
> of the oppressor -- which would reveal a Yugoslav situation exactly the
> opposite of what American propaganda claims, as well as the dominant role of
> the USA.
>
> The Wikipedia article literally might have been written by the CIA, which
> puts up and takes down articles there. Good sources on Yugoslavia are
> Michael Parenti, To Kill a Nation, Verso 2000 and Diana Johnstone, FOOLS'
> CRUSADE: Yugoslavia, NATO, and Western Delusions. Monthly Review Press, New
> York, N.Y, 2002; ISBN 1-58367-084-X. ...
>
> The blogger author of The Emperor's New Clothes, Jared Israel
>
> http://emperors-clothes.com/nekad.htm
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> is excellent on Yugoslavia, though unfortunately Zionist on Israel.
>
> -- James
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> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
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> Todd,
> How true,how true.
>
> Besides,CIA explained many times on US television-how evil those people in
> Yugoslavia are and who should know better than CIA?
> And they are not Western,just look at them,some have slanted eyes.
>
> They are barbarians.Look what they did to poor German soldiers in WW2.
>
> A journalist writes for Vanity Fair about barbarians and how they make love
> with savagery and he suffers unable to sleep,listening to their wild
> screams.
>
> The New York Times writes a special issue(that you can't buy) just for
> children and left this in schools.To explain to sensitive American kids why
> it's GOOD to bomb Serbia.
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>
> I did my own contribution to protect good Americans.The article was callled
> "How to spot Serbs on a subway."
>
> Nadja
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> te: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:11:22 -0800
> > To: a-list at lists.econ.utah.edu
> > From: toddfboyle at gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
> >
> > At 12:19 PM 8/12/2010, Nadja Tesich mentioned...
> >
> > Nothing new-there was Yugoslavia,now destroyed with a largest US base
> > in Europe ...
> >
> > Fact: the region was disintegrating into open warfare and it was
> > getting progressively worse, over a period of many years. Europeans
> > were fed up with it and so were a lot of Americans; Americans in
> > particular are prone to military solutions of everything (nail- hammer)
> >
> > I am generally ignorant of the grievances on all sides of the Balkan
> > conflicts.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_wars
> >
> > However, I am frankly not interested in the people of Yugoslavia.
> > They seem like a bunch of assholes to me... I mean, just look at the
> > map, on the above Wiki page!! The sniping at Sarajevo, the massacres
> > like Srebrenica. If there are villains, the U.S. is not the worst of
> > them. What would have happened to your precious Yugoslavia, if there
> > were no international intervention? The killing would have gone on and
> > on-- as it has in Somalia, the Congo, etc.
> >
> > Do you feel identity as Serbian? or even, nationalist? I am not a
> > nationalist. I am a humanist. I renounce my religion, my nationality,
> > all of it. I want none of it.
> >
> > The actions of Serbs and other warring parties were inhuman and evil.
> > The Americans' blood lust was awakened -- this is rather like our
> > police here. The police are calm and civilized until you disagree with
> > them. Then their domination urges take over. Police will absolutely
> > not debate or reason with you. They have only one mode: domination and
> > control.
> >
> > TOdd
> >
> >
> >
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