[A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity

[Nadja Tesich]

James,
Thank you for  defending my country and me.
 
But,Todd could not have meant it.
When I re-read his letter--I saw humour,irony and sarcasm.Unless he says otherwise.
I like to think that it was a misunerstdaning. Maybe Todd was too good in his irony.
All the books you suggested--I know all of the writers  on a personal level.
I suggest also  the first book"Nato in the Balkans" published by International Action Centerin NYC.I am in it too telling  real stories yet I was the only one attacked with violence when finishing .
 
I was very moved that you defended us.Nobody did that in this city.
 
Tell me what happened to Bernadette Devlin.I knew her.
 
 
Nadja

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> From: james.irldaly at ntlworld.com
> To: a-list at lists.econ.utah.edu
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:32:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
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> Nadja's sarcasm is well justified, Todd, as calling her whole people (and by
> implication, her) Assholes is totally unacceptable on this list, which has
> been free from such a debasement of standards for many years.
>
> You have said you wanted the list to be an education in Marxism, and the
> history of Yugoslavia is a good place to start. The "A plague on both your
> houses" approach is usually a result of ignorance, and ignores the key
> distinction (useful in so-called "ethnic" situations, including Ireland)
> made by Lenin and the 1920 20th party Congress between the (self
> preservative) nationalism of the oppressed and the (imperialist) nationalism
> of the oppressor -- which would reveal a Yugoslav situation exactly the
> opposite of what American propaganda claims, as well as the dominant role of
> the USA.
>
> The Wikipedia article literally might have been written by the CIA, which
> puts up and takes down articles there. Good sources on Yugoslavia are
> Michael Parenti, To Kill a Nation, Verso 2000 and Diana Johnstone, FOOLS'
> CRUSADE: Yugoslavia, NATO, and Western Delusions. Monthly Review Press, New
> York, N.Y, 2002; ISBN 1-58367-084-X. ...
>
> The blogger author of The Emperor's New Clothes, Jared Israel
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> http://emperors-clothes.com/nekad.htm
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> is excellent on Yugoslavia, though unfortunately Zionist on Israel.
>
> -- James
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> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
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> Todd,
> How true,how true.
>
> Besides,CIA explained many times on US television-how evil those people in
> Yugoslavia are and who should know better than CIA?
> And they are not Western,just look at them,some have slanted eyes.
>
> They are barbarians.Look what they did to poor German soldiers in WW2.
>
> A journalist writes for Vanity Fair about barbarians and how they make love
> with savagery and he suffers unable to sleep,listening to their wild
> screams.
>
> The New York Times writes a special issue(that you can't buy) just for
> children and left this in schools.To explain to sensitive American kids why
> it's GOOD to bomb Serbia.
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>
> I did my own contribution to protect good Americans.The article was callled
> "How to spot Serbs on a subway."
>
> Nadja
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> te: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:11:22 -0800
> > To: a-list at lists.econ.utah.edu
> > From: toddfboyle at gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
> >
> > At 12:19 PM 8/12/2010, Nadja Tesich mentioned...
> >
> > Nothing new-there was Yugoslavia,now destroyed with a largest US base
> > in Europe ...
> >
> > Fact: the region was disintegrating into open warfare and it was
> > getting progressively worse, over a period of many years. Europeans
> > were fed up with it and so were a lot of Americans; Americans in
> > particular are prone to military solutions of everything (nail- hammer)
> >
> > I am generally ignorant of the grievances on all sides of the Balkan
> > conflicts.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_wars
> >
> > However, I am frankly not interested in the people of Yugoslavia.
> > They seem like a bunch of assholes to me... I mean, just look at the
> > map, on the above Wiki page!! The sniping at Sarajevo, the massacres
> > like Srebrenica. If there are villains, the U.S. is not the worst of
> > them. What would have happened to your precious Yugoslavia, if there
> > were no international intervention? The killing would have gone on and
> > on-- as it has in Somalia, the Congo, etc.
> >
> > Do you feel identity as Serbian? or even, nationalist? I am not a
> > nationalist. I am a humanist. I renounce my religion, my nationality,
> > all of it. I want none of it.
> >
> > The actions of Serbs and other warring parties were inhuman and evil.
> > The Americans' blood lust was awakened -- this is rather like our
> > police here. The police are calm and civilized until you disagree with
> > them. Then their domination urges take over. Police will absolutely
> > not debate or reason with you. They have only one mode: domination and
> > control.
> >
> > TOdd
> >
> >
> >
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