[A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
james.irldaly at ntlworld.com
Sat Aug 14 11:32:07 MDT 2010
Nadja's sarcasm is well justified, Todd, as calling her whole people (and by
implication, her) Assholes is totally unacceptable on this list, which has
been free from such a debasement of standards for many years.
You have said you wanted the list to be an education in Marxism, and the
history of Yugoslavia is a good place to start. The "A plague on both your
houses" approach is usually a result of ignorance, and ignores the key
distinction (useful in so-called "ethnic" situations, including Ireland)
made by Lenin and the 1920 20th party Congress between the (self
preservative) nationalism of the oppressed and the (imperialist) nationalism
of the oppressor -- which would reveal a Yugoslav situation exactly the
opposite of what American propaganda claims, as well as the dominant role of
The Wikipedia article literally might have been written by the CIA, which
puts up and takes down articles there. Good sources on Yugoslavia are
Michael Parenti, To Kill a Nation, Verso 2000 and Diana Johnstone, FOOLS'
CRUSADE: Yugoslavia, NATO, and Western Delusions. Monthly Review Press, New
York, N.Y, 2002; ISBN 1-58367-084-X. ...
The blogger author of The Emperor's New Clothes, Jared Israel
is excellent on Yugoslavia, though unfortunately Zionist on Israel.
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
How true,how true.
Besides,CIA explained many times on US television-how evil those people in
Yugoslavia are and who should know better than CIA?
And they are not Western,just look at them,some have slanted eyes.
They are barbarians.Look what they did to poor German soldiers in WW2.
A journalist writes for Vanity Fair about barbarians and how they make love
with savagery and he suffers unable to sleep,listening to their wild
The New York Times writes a special issue(that you can't buy) just for
children and left this in schools.To explain to sensitive American kids why
it's GOOD to bomb Serbia.
I did my own contribution to protect good Americans.The article was callled
"How to spot Serbs on a subway."
te: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:11:22 -0800
> To: a-list at lists.econ.utah.edu
> From: toddfboyle at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [A-List] Renounce ethnic identity --and all false identity
> At 12:19 PM 8/12/2010, Nadja Tesich mentioned...
> Nothing new-there was Yugoslavia,now destroyed with a largest US base
> in Europe ...
> Fact: the region was disintegrating into open warfare and it was
> getting progressively worse, over a period of many years. Europeans
> were fed up with it and so were a lot of Americans; Americans in
> particular are prone to military solutions of everything (nail- hammer)
> I am generally ignorant of the grievances on all sides of the Balkan
> However, I am frankly not interested in the people of Yugoslavia.
> They seem like a bunch of assholes to me... I mean, just look at the
> map, on the above Wiki page!! The sniping at Sarajevo, the massacres
> like Srebrenica. If there are villains, the U.S. is not the worst of
> them. What would have happened to your precious Yugoslavia, if there
> were no international intervention? The killing would have gone on and
> on-- as it has in Somalia, the Congo, etc.
> Do you feel identity as Serbian? or even, nationalist? I am not a
> nationalist. I am a humanist. I renounce my religion, my nationality,
> all of it. I want none of it.
> The actions of Serbs and other warring parties were inhuman and evil.
> The Americans' blood lust was awakened -- this is rather like our
> police here. The police are calm and civilized until you disagree with
> them. Then their domination urges take over. Police will absolutely
> not debate or reason with you. They have only one mode: domination and
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