[A-List] Lieberman Gained Most from War, Surveys Say

[Paul Wright]

Maybe the lack of difference between Israeli major political parties is
because they are all premised on Zionism which entails the subjugation of
the Palestinians? Like in the US and its major political parties, the end
goals are not in question, only the best means by which to achieve them.

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From: a-list-bounces at lists.econ.utah.edu
[mailto:a-list-bounces at lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Yoshie Furuhashi
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:45 AM
To: The A-List
Subject: Re: [A-List] Lieberman Gained Most from War, Surveys Say

Regarding Israel's relation to the Palestinians, I agree with you 100%.

The only steadfast Israeli supporters of just peace with the
Palestinians are found on the narrow spectrum of Hadash and the Arab
parties and those to their left such as anarchists.  There's no
difference among Likud, Kadima, and Labor.  And such evidence as
exists shows that more settlements get built under Labor than under
those to its Right, because Labor is better at working with
Palestinian and other Arab collaborators and obtaining a "peace
process" that gives Israel a calm environment for settlement
development.

Moreover, our basic message should be this: it is Israel that is
rejectionist, whereas Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran, as well as
much of the rest of the world excepting the USA, would readily settle
for a two-state solution.  (Regrettably, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran
are poor at getting this message across, loud and clear, because of
their domestic politics and ideological straitjacket.  The Syrian
leaders are actually very good, on a few times they are allowed to get
into the Western media.)  And it's easier to make this point clear
when Israel is run by its right wing.

That said, there can be a difference between the Israeli Right,
especially its far Right, and the other parties with regard to Iran.
I'd like to think that Washington won't greenlight an Israeli bombing
of Iran, but in recent years Israel has already bombed Lebanon, Syria,
and Gaza, so the next logical step is Iran.

Yoshie

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:33 AM, farmelantj at juno.com
<farmelantj at juno.com> wrote:
>
> It seems to me that in Israel, substantive
> differences between the major political
> parties are practically nonexistent.
> When even the Meretz Party, the so-called
> party of "peace and civil rights", initially
> gave its blessing to the attacks on
> Hamas (although they apparently opposed
> the ground offensive into Gaza),then it
> seems apparent that it will make little
> difference which party or parties get to
> form the next government there.
> Benjamin Netanyahu is often portrayed by
> liberals as the great bogey man of Israeli
> politics, but is he any worse than the other
> Israeli politicans?  Olmert & Barak, of Kadima
> and Labor, repsectively, have two wars to their
> credit within the last two years.  Netanyahu,
> when he was last PM, had no wars, just a lot
> of bellicose rhetoric.  Olmert, Barak, and
> Tzipi Livni can all talk a good game
> about negotiations with the Palestinians,
> but they keep building new settlements while
> expanding older ones and they keep waging
> low level warfare against the Palestinians.
> Netanyahu, in contrast, maintains a steady
> stream of bellicose rhetoric, but otherwise
> his actions are no different from the other
> Israeli politicians.  It is perhaps preferable
> for Israel to have a PM who is an honest
> rejectionist as opposed to having one
> who talks of peace and negotiations while
> in fact pursuing rejectionist policies.
>
>
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