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>> Many of the 2,800 freedmen are the descendants of  slaves  owned  by
Cherokees in the 19th century. Many are the descendants   of  African
American and Indian parents. The Cherokee backed the   Confederacy  in
the Civil War, the U.S. Army assigned the former  slaves  to reside
among  tribal members, and Congress made it a  condition of the  tribe's
continuing in  the Union that the former  slaves become tribal  citizens.
They have come to be  known since  as the Cherokee freedmen.  Congress
and the courts have protected   them from curtailment of their  tribal
citizenship rights in the past.  The  nation's own Supreme Court  upheld
freedmen rights prior to  March 3, when the  Cherokee voted to  expel the
freedmen from the  tribe. Smith argued that their  growing  number
threatened the  Indian identity of the tribe. But the BIA,  courts  and
public  opinion turned against the tribe, resulting in the   restoration
of  the freedmen to tribal citizenship for long enough at least  to   vote
in a June 23 election on Cherokee membership in March.   <<
 
 
 
Comment
 
Ok . .  . Professor Craven speak, you are the resident Indian  ideologue. 
 
I have no fear. 
 
Obviously the  issue of whom is Indian, in the context of this article  and 
the issue of voting  rights of the "freedmen" within the Cherokee  Nation is 
not 
one of blood, but the  adoption and perpetuation of the  "Indian Way."  The 
"Indian Way" is ultimately decided by those in political  power and with 
economic authority within the Indian Nations.  Let's not  pretend we are children 
without a legacy of real world politics. 
 
Does this mean the  "Indian Way" in the context of the article, has  
something to do with their specific way into the globalize market and  modern  finance 
capital as Casino economy?  Of course this is what is  meant, through the 
voice of Mr. Smith. 

Smith. 

As if  we are dealing with a legacy that stretches back to the "blacksmith" 
during the  early period of manufacture or sword making. Mr. Smith voice 
reminds me of the  evil character in the fiction movies the Matrix. "I shall exclude 
you to  preserve the Matrix, or rather Indian Way." 

I am not scared of the  Indian Way or in any way dispute its validity as a 
real lived history. There are  aspects of the Indian Way that are relevant for 
today, but only aspects, that  can be explained and identified. .What I do 
dispute and contest is the  ideological Indian, which is why I called Professor 
Craven a phoney Indian and  will explain what is meant.  Ones conviction is not 
at stake but ones  politics. It is without honor to challenge a persons 
convictions.  

I am a nigga and a communist and hear nothing that is not first  filtered 
through the lens of class as potential laborers without property.   Then there is 
the color question and it has most certainly raised its ugly head  in the 
Cherokee Nation. 

Deal with this issue. 
 
The color factor - not the traditional presentation of the national factor,  
bleeds through American history and is not going to "just go  away" by  
ignoring it. 
 
See . . . I am going to speak of classes  amongst the Indian Nations  and the 
Cherokee Nation and the black Indians, fully understanding that all the  
modern Indian nations are under attack by modern imperialism and its new  
financial architecture.   

I am saying that this  attempted expulsion of black Indians is political and 
has very little to do with  the defense of the Indian Way, because the Indian 
bourgeoisie and the Indian  political elite can defend the "Indian Way" 
through institutional means. What is  being fought out and the rallying point is 
"niggas culture." 

I can  accept this but one is going to lose because the niggas of the earth   
inherent the earth. Period. 
 
Beneath the "who is Indian" and the "Indian Way" - (understood as   "the 
Indian identity of the tribe")  reveals how the politics of  modern  
imperialism and 
plain old bourgeois economic interest is being  played out.   In other words 
the struggle of economic classes and  various economic strata,  seeking to 
express themselves in the  political arena through electoral politics  is the 
subject of this  thread. The Indian nations are forced into a modern form of 
representative  politics and have to get votes or simply pass legislation to 
go back to a  hereditary form of authority, which will not solve the modern 
problem of  representation in an environment of modern classes. 

It is valid to  ask an individual, "who elected you to something." 
 
I am not scared or shamed because I  cannot hate myself or my wife and  her 
family. I can only speak my  truth.  I an not Indian and  neither is my wife, 
although I have no way to explain the grandparents pictures  on the wall. 
Indian is not a blood thing or necessarily who your grandparents  are. 

Does this not get silly on one level or another?  

Professor Craven, you are honorable in your convictions, but you  are a white 
man that adopted the Indian Way and this is alright, but you are no  more 
Indian that this mass of people being expelled from the Cherokee Nation. In  fact 
you are less Indian and this does not detract from your brilliant defense  of 
the rights of the Indians. I state this on the basis of blood and  
photographic evidence and the American experience. 

I shall never  forget Professor Craven combining my name with the police and 
intelligence  agencies . . . then stating I am to stupid to be a police and 
then the horrible  personal attacks because I see things different. Because I 
see sex with women  different than you, I am called horrible names. I reject 
marriage as a bourgeois  institution but believe that it is has been a legal 
institution - property  relations, between a man and women, and I could care less 
what horrible names I  am called. I will never support gay marriage because I 
have never supported  bourgeois marriage and have wives to prove this. 

This issue hit  the Cherokee Nation and was voted on in Oklahoma, after the 
Oklahoma vote  banning gay marriage. If you oppose bourgeois marriage, which 
codifies women as  property of men, how on earth can you support any marriage 
under the bourgeois  order? For this Professor Craven called me all kinds of bad 
names and this is  cool, but he should take his diabolical proclamations to 
the Indians. The real  Indians. 

This is going to be complex and require thinking.  

Well . . . brother . . . we see the world different and their is  no 
possibility of me being cowed by a guilt ridden professor, who claims to have  no 
"white guilt."  Guilt is historical or it would not be passed from one  generation 
to the next and all of us have some. My guilt  is that I have  never not done 
enough. My history is to mixed to pick out one facet and say this  is who I 
am. I am all of it and all of it is called "nigga." 

Until  you retract all of your personal insults directed at me my tone will 
never  change . . . toward you and your phoney ideological  Indian shit. Until  
your tone change my tone will not change and you will die as a fat man 
clinging  to an ideological Indian way. 

I am a nigga by choice and you are  an Indian by choice, since according to 
you, and the article above, blood is not  at issue. 

I shall never forget what he has written as a record  about Martin Luther 
King Jr. and the Professor's assumption as a white man, that  adopted the "Indian 
Way".   Here is the logic of a murderer with a  spiritual awakening, after 
murdering the oppressed. 

I have no need  to repent. I murdered no one by choice and risked jail. I 
shall not repent for  fucking women and having wives, although I was very stupid 
as a young man. I  financially and emotional;ly supported all the kids and 
another mutherfucklers  kids all my life. I hate professors and lawyers 
interpretation of social life.  If I were a bad dad I could not expose myself on the 
Internet and the A-List.  

I do pussy . . . fuck you. I am not against what someone else  might do. 

This gets deep and we can deal with it from the Indian  Way. 

As a fat man you can never bully me, no matter how often you  hurl the word 
"punk" and threaten to kick ass. Your threats and ideological bent  is going to 
be your undoing because none of us can live like this. This is not  the 
attitude of the mythical warrior but that of a mercenary and intellectual  bully. 

You think you know something and miss the obvious. Indians  are not fat and 
you are . . . and the Indian Way should instruct one of the way  of fat. That 
is why you suffer. Professors and lawyers know everything and  nothing. What is 
lacking is a degree in common sense. 

A lot of  black people in America can be qualified as Indian  with Indian 
blood and  grandparents along with a lot of  white folks, especially  in  
Louisiana and Oklahoma - meaning "land of red people,: and such people  have  not 
adopted the Indian way but the way of the niggas. This is the  logic of 
imperialism. We cannot stem this logic only over throw it. The solution  to fat is to 
stop eating  . . . halt consumption that is rooted in the  privilege of the 
oppressor over the oppressed. 

The Indian way . .  . stop eating and prove ones Indian way. 
 
I do no seek  to be offensive for affect,  but this issue has  never been 
really talked 
about publicly from  a Marxist standpoint and  I am breaking a long 
tradition. I have had enough of the ideological bourgeois  nationalist. 

My black and red  comrades are not going find  this cute, because they feel 
no 
compulsion to  explain anything to  anyone.  I am not explaining anything, 
but 
just talking  and we do  talk a lot. 
 
Sovereign nations and the various Indian  nations are indeed  sovereign, 
possess rights that define their sovereignty. This  includes  the ability to 
conduct 
all their affairs in their native tongue,  native  customs, spiritual 
specificity, historical memory and build  institutional  artifacts, economic 
relations 
and systems that  perpetuate a nations vision of  itself. This also includes 
the rights  of expulsion of people and what in  America, will be understood 
to be 
a  form of ethnic (tribal) cleansing.  
 
We kidnap people in America today - meaning our government, and put them in  
jails inside and  outside the country legally - through the Patriot Act,  and 
jail citizens in  their 
millions so that the penal institutions are  profitable. We have always  done 
this 
and need to stop acting like we  are "goody two shoes."  
 
The Cherokee Nation and their bourgeois politicians desire to  expel  roughly 
3500 voters is just another bourgeois thang to me.  
 
In America national body politics today this same issue is being   fought out 
on the basis of Mexican immigration and the Spanish  language,  national 
identification papers and who can vote and who  cannot vote.  In  America at 
large we 
call this being "legal" or  "illegal." 
 
What  then is the issue? 
 
Well, the solution cannot be expulsion, which  only arises as the  result of 
class differentiation and the obvious need for a  political  grouping to 
buttressed its electoral base. Within the state of the   United State of 
North 
America, every single issue of who can and cannot  vote,  always and for all 
time will 
be first linked to wealth  possession and voting  blocks and the history of 
slavery. 
 
This history cannot be undone.  
 
The protection and perpetuation of the Indian Way can never be   disputed and 
means such ways are protected and perpetuated by  institutional  means as 
books, schools, rites of passage, in designed  holidays, and the  undisputed 
right 
to codify historical memory through  language.   
 
That the hated BIA threatens to intervene in this issue is  outrageous  given 
its permanent policy of Indian genocide. That the Congressional   Black 
Caucus 
has stepped forth as the protector of "the rights of the  black  former 
slaves," in the context of the "Cherokee Nation" having  fought on the  side 
of the 
"Southern Secessionist Movement," means we  are dealing with a  complex 
question 
requiring the lens of class and  familiarity with the historical  brilliance 
of 
Marxism and the National  Colonial Question, in the opening era of  new 
proletarian revolutions. 
 
I have nothing but hatred for the  BIA. 
 
"I charge the BIA with ethnic cleansing, racial  discrimination,  ethnically 
exclusionary procedural systems and breach of  contractual  obligations," 
said 
Angela Molette, Freedmen's Descendants   spokesperson. She said the main 
purpose 
of the First Annual Black Indian Pow  Wow  in Enid was to call "members" of 
the five tribes back home so that  they may  re-claim the heritage that was 
lost 
due to the forced exile.  Historians have  estimated that at least 18 percent 
of the Indians that  survived the Trail of  Tears were Black.
 
(_http://www.blackcommentator.com/66/66_reprint_indians.html_ 
(http://www.blackcommentator.com/66/66_reprint_indians.html) ) 
 

And  of course, zero compassion for the Congressional Black  Caucus  demand 
to 
withhold federal funds from the "Cherokee Nation,"  although such funds are  
always earmarked and used to buttressed and  consolidate the bourgeoisie 
amongst  the colonized. Smith's argument  that "Indian identity is being 
threatened" 
is  the only way that the  voice of the "Cherokee bourgeoisie," can be 
expressed  and  . .  .  who has in fact, long ago broke with "the Indian 
way," in   
seeking development based on imperial bourgeois social and economic  
relations?  
Does not the politics, mirror the traditional Southern  reactionary political 
 
leaders seeking to exclude voters and protect  their political block on the 
basis 
of  identity? In the meaning of the  Southern reactionary, their identity is  
that of dominator as the hands  of the old Slave Oligarchy. 
 
We are  in fact dealing with classes and the vying of different  sectors and 
sections of  classes tied to modern imperialism and  bourgeois relations. 
This 
specific issue  dates back to the 1983  election in the Cherokee Nation and 
its 
legal aftermath.  
 
If is sounds like, "nigga you cannot vote,"  . . . then you  must  ask if 
your 
ears are lairs. It is of course deeper than what sounds  the  ears hear. 
 
I refuse to surrender a class vision rooted in the most  destitute of  
society 
and I understand the bourgeois nationalist ideologue who   cannot make heads 
or tails out of the mechanics of imperial  entrapment.  
 
There is a historic proletariat amongst the various Indian Nations   that 
began its specific evolution at the point of "European Conquest" of  the  
Americas. 
This proletarian mass was segregated on reservations  under conditions  of 
immense poverty and hunted as "game" anytime it  ventured outside the  
reservation 
seeking wages and  was  historically excluded from modern  bourgeois and 
industrial production.  Such Indians have been mistakenly  understood to be a 
lumpen  
proletariat.  The women amongst them were the  object of rape and  this is 
why 
many of us were born. No, I am not justifying  rape. 
 
History cannot be undone. 
 
Here I run into the  ideological Indians, that specialize in Indian  
litigations, which is honorable  on the level that protect   sovereignty, but 
these 
individuals who are  ideological Indians, are  such because they adopted the 
Indian 
way and tend to  leave out the  inner and inter-class struggle, as an index 
or 
lens.   
 
Today all of history collides inward and the historical Marxists  and  
communist are forced to view history with fresh eyes.  Fresh eyes  means  
looking at 
the same thing from a different perspective. 
 
Screaming  against big trucks and the other so-called ills of  bourgeois 
society brought  back to the reservations are the cry of the  ideological 
Indian who 
visualize a  world reality immune to the  ravishes of imperialism and its 
tendency to group  together peoples in  national clusters on the one hand, 
and then 
disperse these  same  peoples. 
 
I dispute the concept of tribe as a modern  description of the  National 
factor in America, in respect the Indian Nations -  not Indian  peoples,  and 
see 
national clusters, more than less being   dispersed, with the bourgeoisie 
amongst 
them feverishly fighting to hold  unto  its market shares on the basis of 
national distinctiveness. No  one is asked to  surrender a way of life and 
how each 
of us think  things out or our living  rituals that make us who we are. 
 
Have we not have enough of the  bourgeois black nationalist that is  forever 
ranting about the theft of "black  culture" and its  "appropriation" by 
"white 
America," when in fact modern  economic,  social and political relations 
shatter 
cultural exclusiveness and sets   the stage for what Comrade Lenin long ago 
called the slow emergence of  the  international culture of the proletariat.  
 
The Indian  bourgeoisie and political elite is not very different from  the 
African American  bourgeoisie and black elite, tied to the US  government by 
a 
thousand threads. In  the case of the Indian  bourgeoisie and elite, it grew 
up 
and consolidated in  modern times on  the basis of the Casino economy. This 
is 
not something I read in  a  book. I personally have visited sores of Indian 
casinos, from one end  of  America to the next to see all the surrounding 
areas for  
myself.  
 
Here's where I'm coming from. 
 
Look, there are more  white people and Arabs that are niggas in  America . . 
. 
. than niggas.  
 
Marx had a vision of industrial and capitalist development and  could  
actually visualize a modern country that had amalgamated the world   
proletariat into 
itself. It has taken me a lifetime to understand that Marx  saw  America in 
all 
its abstract and concrete features. 
 
The niggas  amongst the Indians . . . ain't that something? 
 
Oh . . . the  Korean niggas always been mentioned as the tender box of  
"Asia."  
 
This is an existing time to be alive. 
 
Victory to the  proletariat revolution. 
 
The Indian heritage will reveal itself as a proletariat, more than  less,  
excluded from industrial production and demanding socially  necessary means 
of  
life, even if it has no money. 
 
This is just mind boggling and  exciting. 
 
Nothing shall be surrendered to the chauvinist and bourgeois  nationalist.  
Not one molecule. 
 
 



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