[A-List] Bahais: what about some dialectic materialism in search of an explanation?

[nestorgoro at fibertel.com.ar]

Couldn´t someone take a serious dialectical materialist interest on this and tell us the social, economic and political history of the Bahai sect? Couldn´t someone tell us _who_ these 1844 Bahais were? Was hatred of the Bahais something stemming out just from a doctrinal dissidence? Or the Bahais had some _social_ meaning in Persia, 1844, that set them against someone or something in that society, other than the personal interests of the clergy (a possibility not to be relinquished if we try to understand seriously). If I don´t remember wrongly, we tend to believe that the conditions of existence are the prime lever to understand the forms of consciousness. Otherwise we might fall in senseless mud-slinging. And, BTW, as to the conspirational issue, yes, the CIA did not exist in 1844, nor the USA as an international actor. They wre very active preparing themselves to head South West under the leadership of the Southerner slaveowners. But what about, er, British diplomats and a
gents? Anyway, I would subject the issue to the questions I posed above.

Néstor Gorojovsky

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De: Sabri Oncu <sabri_oncu at yahoo.com>
Fecha: Sábado, Agosto 4, 2007 7:53 pm
Asunto: Re: [A-List] Congress Hears Testimony on Serious Situations of the Baha'is in Iran and Egypt

> Louis:
> 
> > Again, a deeply ignorant statement. The Baha'is were persecuted 
> the 
> > minute they appeared in Persia. All of their leaders were killed 
> by 
> > Muslims who saw them as apostates. This was long before the 
> state of 
> > Israel ever existed. Over 20,000 were killed in 1844. I don't 
> believe 
> > that the CIA existed then either.
> 
> Sure! The same thing happened to the Jews 4000 years ago, to the 
> Christians2000 years ago and Muslims 1400 years ago. And there was 
> no CIA then. But we
> have CIA now and it can exploit such divisions. Don't you remember 
> whathappened in Yugoslavia?
> 
> Sabri
> 
> 
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