[A-List] Co-Moderator's - China/correction

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>The African American Left seems to be more in tune with the Third World  
Left.  Read the specches of the Malcomb X or the anti-war speeches of King  (for 
which he was persecuted beyond his non-viloent civil rights leadership  which 
he appeared to be losing unloess his adopted resistanced to the Vietnam  War.) 
 Many political activitists have different priorities for liberation  
struggle that are drastically different than those of the Western anti-communist  
right.<

Reply 

The intersection of the victory of  the people of China . . . under the 
leadership of Mao ZeDung and the Communist  Party of China . . . with the upsurge 
of the struggle of the African American  people between 1949 and the mid 1970s 
. . . Speaks for itself. The Watts  Rebellion of 1965 and then Detroit 1967 
ushered in a new level of social  struggle in the American Union and completed 
the encirclement of US imperial by  the fighting colonial masses.

It just so happens that the movement  of the African American people peaked 
almost precisely with the death of  Chairman Mao. Political restructuring in 
China and changes in many of its  economic policies are following a logic of 
history just being disclosed. How can  all these various movement through the 
world peak at the same time if we are not  dealing with profound historical 
logic? 

Even if we cannot yet  describe the logic we are dealing with something more 
than "socialism" versus  "capitalism" . . . and who writes the most clever 
ideological statement. Then  the national factor baffles the American Marxists 
for reasons of our history  development. 

Example of confusion: Henry as an individual and  Chinese is part of a 
historical configuration called the "overseas" Chinese and  their social and 
economic role in history . . . for about a thousand years or  so.  

Comrade Lou as Jewish and Jews scattered throughout the  world do not mirror 
the relationship of the over sea China to China or the  relationship of Jews 
to . . .  what . . . America. This is not to deny  centuries of bloodletting 
and murder of Jews as Jews. Something else is be  stated at attempting critical 
unraveling of social processes.  

Overseas Chinese impact China for reasons of history. Jews impact  what 
country in history? Nor is there an equivalent of overseas Chinese as  social, 
political and economic history . . . amongst the African American  people. The 
African American people are not African that immigrate to America  and assimilate 
that which is American. That is to say African American did not  come from 
Nigeria or Africa as such in the sense of over sea Chinese coming from  China as 
modern history. 

African Americans were created in the  American Union as a people. I have an 
obligation to make it clear that at this  point in history an enormous segment 
of the black bourgeoisie adopts the  political posture of the most fascistic 
reactionary Anglo American politicians  and rulers and say the solution to the 
social position of the African American  is more jails . . . a larger police 
force and half the black politicians favor  practical segregation because it 
consolidates their political basis as "black  leaders."  

"Build a big housing project for them . . . the  blacks . . . and consolidate 
10,000 votes for me" is how they cater to bourgeois  property and the Anglo 
American imperial bourgeoisie. 

"Black  mutherfucking rat ass . . . genuflecting . . . self seeking . .  ."

Nor are Jews analogous to Italians . . . who generally come from  Italy. This 
is merely the complexity of the national factor.  

History itself makes the issue of China sensitive . . . not the  individual 
thinker. The over sea Chinese . . . even when assimilating the  culture of the 
host country remains an "over sea Chinese" as a curve of economic  development 
. . . historical culture and the reality that is China. There is no  factor 
such as this amongst African American's and they tend to see the world  very 
different. 

In relationship to themselves (African Americans)  and then Italians . . . 
they more than less conform to the Anglo Americans . . .  despite the 
glorification and falsification in movies like the Godfather. Within  the Anglo American 
people is a pecking order based of the various waves of  European immigration 
. . . with the English tending to be at the top.   

Nevertheless . . . was I the only one that saw "Jungle Fever?"  

It gets tricky because at this stage in the evolution of the  American Union 
the lower class tend to not manifest any radical difference in  what was once 
called national character of national peculiarity. This social  process is 
also going to impact the over seas Chinese in America . . . not that  China have 
become a significant economic and world power and trader with  America. 

There are aspects of the Jewish Question that intersect  and mimic the 
development curve of the African American in the sense Jews in  America have 
immigrant here from everywhere and possess and retain commercial  ties not based in 
the equivalent of a China. On the other hand African Americans  do not possess 
a commercial tie connection because they were basically created  as slaves and 
further evolved as a people in America. 

In other  worlds China can pressure the American government over the murder 
of a Chinese .  . . regardless of how many generation the Chinese may have been 
in America. This  is possible through China existing as China and as a world 
power. When an  African American . . . and interestingly a Jew in America is 
murdered . . .  where is the economic and political basis in foreign 
governments to pressure the  American government? 

Israel is a new sociological phenomenon - in  my opinion, and I tend to stay 
away from equating the Jewish Question with  Israel . . . because I believe it 
is connected with the earliest formation of  commodity trade and what would 
become the role of the merchant.   

We revolutionaries in the Anglo American nation . . . no matter  what our 
color or peculiar curve in assimilating the Anglo . . . have a terrible  debt to 
pay to history. Our first task is always to clarify the national factor.  In 
other words the over sea Chinese conform to history rooted in China . . .  with 
the longest and continuous unbroken history . . . perhaps on earth.  

Words make a difference and in America the words "all men are  created equal" 
does not mean what a literal translation of American English  yields. 
Everything I read is read from the standpoint of the historical curve of  world 
history as I understand it . . . which is not very much. 

We  Yankees . . . have this incredible knack in not just tripping over our 
own feet  . . . but dragging down several other dancers on the dance floor. Then 
we wonder  why no one wants to dance with us and on the same floor? 

One must  learn how to dance not based on themselves but how other peoples 
also dance.  

"Where do you dance Sandman?" 

(The Cotton Club movie  . . . Sandman was that brillant tap dancer played by 
Gregory Hines . . . working  under conditions of Jim Crow . . . and making a 
fistful of money . . . far more  than the lowest sector of the proletariat). 

All slavery is not  created equal and this includes wage slavery and 
industrial socialism is wage  slavery . . . but a step in the right direction. 

I have to learn  to dance and do not mind moon walking my ass away from a 
wrong political  position . . . like when I had an epiphany and thought I had the 
right to speak  on whether or not the CPC allows capitalist to be party 
members. From a brief  moment I actually thought I was a member of the CPC and then 
I forgot that we  always had members with means in our group. That was my 
chauvinism coming out .  . . But I asked for forgiveness. 

"Where do you dance Sandman?"  


Melvin P.