[CrashList] Re:Will Anyone Take Any Notice???
johnwood at umich.edu
Tue Sep 12 15:15:33 MDT 2000
Mugabe is no "Marxist" and never has been one. He is among a pack the CIA
termed "national communists," which basically meant nationalist opportunists
who could use some Marxist verbiage demagogically while serving the economic
and strategic interests of the imperialists. The Afghan leader overthrown by
Barbak Karmal (his name slips me now), Ceaucescu, Pol Pot and various others
of were so categorized and were aided by the CIA. They were
pseudorevolutionaries who resisted internal changes that might challenge the
wealthy local sellouts.
juneo4 at juno.com wrote:
> Responding to the post below, scroll down:
> Question: I need to know of some examples where Marxism is working, and
> how it is working sustainably, please Anyone?
> An example of a 'new' marxist leader of a 'new' nation (as in recent
> times), namely Zimbabwe, seems to me not to be one example?
> With billions of dollars changing hands in a nanosecond (e-commerce) the
> dynamics of the World as weKnowIt, Surely, must have changed dramatically
> in the past decade and demand more "imaginative" (to quote Tahir)
> theories ( to avoid or mitigate the Crash)?
> Simple practical sustainable activities, ( solutions, such as 'staa jabu'
> put forward on this list) that can be put into practice, immediately, by
> millions would change dynamics!? While furturists develop their visions
> for the rest of us, we can with our everyday choices and actions, surely
> surely become co-creators (Barbara Marx Hubbard) of a better world, thus
> being part of the Solutions and the Problems, right?
> Fred E Katz demonstrates( "Ordinary People and Extraordinary Evil") evil
> is incremental, (and compounded?) so why can we not envision that
> 'postive sustainable compassionate Caring' would incrementally dismantle
> dysfuctional systems? jo*
> I am not particularly
> >interested in the finer points of Marxist (or any other) theory or
> >They would only be of value if they could offer a demonstrable and
> >way of avoiding the crash - which, although it sometimes seems most
> >contributors have forgotten - is the whole point of this group (as far
> >as I
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